Haxxor!

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BTW, the in-map animation of Falaflame is almost right. The "light from the heavens" is there, although the stones are... retangles. =P

Army data... I should have thought so. After all, so many characters appear as enemies, and have their weapons back if stolen (Fred, p. ex). Thanks for the pointer.

I was taking a look at the character data, btw. I could recognize it as such until 3:258C. That is, in 3:258D looks like there's another data. I still didn't figure out what it is - if there is any character data after that, or not.

Talking about character data, a little update.

01 - HP
02 - Strength
03 - Magic
04 - Skill
05 - Speed
06 - Defense
07 - Build
08 - Luck
09 - Movement
0A - Extra-action chance
0B - ?
0C - HP Growth
0D - Strength growth
0E - Magic growth
0F - Skill growth
10 - Speed growth
11 - Defense growth
12 - Build growth
13 - Luck Growth
14 - Movement growth
15 - Sword Rank
16 - Lance Rank
17 - Axe Rank
18 - Bow Rank
19 - Staff Rank
1A - Fire Rank
1B - Thunder Rank
1C - Wind Rank
1D - Light Rank
1E - Dark Rank
1F - (64)
20 - (64)
21 - (64)
22 - (64)
23 - (64)
24 - (64)
25 - (64)
26 - (64)
27 - (64)
28 - (64)
29 - ?
2A - Skills A
2B - Skills B
2C - Skills C
2D - Class
2E - Leadership (0-0e)
2F - Map Sprite
30 - Face

For a moment, I tought that the 64's would be weapon rank progression rate, but doesn't look like so. If someone has a nice idea of how to test it...


EDIT: Thanks to Twilkitri's info, I've been making a list of the character numbers. Two interesting things:



Those are supposed to be Yurius and Manfloy, AD and AE. However, look at the faces. There ARE Manfloy's and Yurius's faces in the game, but...

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Here's another list. This time, for the two character numbers in the Army Data array.

Six points, though:

1. The characters 1-32 follow the faces' list order.
2. Usually, they're put in sort of appearance order. SORT of.
3. Most non-recruitable units don't have a growth rate.
4. "Youhei" means mercenary, but I left it to avoid confusion (with the class).
5. Hei - soldier; Gun - Army; Dan - Group/Gang. Left them out of laziness.
6. Gundan (formed by two kanji - gun-dan) is different from Gundam (GANDAMU). There is no misspelling.

[XX-00]

33 - Leidrik (Baron)
34 - Julias (dark mage, Cyas' face, weak)
35 - Beldo (Dark Bishop)
36 - Wisman (Sword Armor)
37 - Manster-hei (Archer)
38 - Backs (Warrior - 2 boss)
39 - Javal (Pirate - 2G)
3A - Rifis-dan (Pirate)
3B - Rifis-dan (Hunter)
3C - Rifis-dan (Warrior)
3D - Robos (General)
3E - Manster-hei (Bow Armor)
3F - Manster-hei (Mage)

40 - Manster-hei (Bishop)
41 - Romio (Civilian)
42 - Luchea (Civilian)
43 - Juvel (Civilian)
44 - Corple (Civilian)
45 - Sety (Sage)
46 - Ishtar (Sage)
47 - Reinhardt (Mage Fighter - Novice)
48 - Rifis-dan (Sword Fighter)
49 - Emily (Civilian)
4A - Mafy (Civilian)
4B - Vera (Civilian)
4C - Kliff (Civilian)
4D - Boy (Civilian)
4E - Lina (Civilian)
4F - Youhei (Swordfighter)

50 - Galzus (Mercenary)
51 - Manster-hei (Social Knight)
52 - Manster-hei (Paladin)
53 - Manster-hei (Arch Knight)
54 - Manster-hei (Trobadour)
55 - Aizenal (Paladin)
56 - Hannival (General)
57 - Manster-hei (Axe Knight)
58 - Bandit (Mountain Thief)
59 - Bandit (Hunter)
5A - Bandit (Warrior)
5B - Lumei (Dragon Knight)
5C - Gomes (Warrior)
5D - Marlock (Dragon Knight)
5E - Thracia-hei (Dragon Knight)
5F - Thracia-hei (Sword Fighter)

60 - Thracia-hei (Axe Fighter)
61 - Althena (Dragon Knight)
62 - Trabant (Dragon Master)
63 - Lalgo (General)
64 - Manster-hei (Long Arch)
65 - Manster-hei (Axe Armor)
66 - Kempf (Mage Fighter)
67 - Oltof (Bishop)
68 - Rosa (Civilian)
69 - Seila (Civilian)
6A - Peter (Civilian)
6B - Corho (Warrior)
6C - List (General)
6D - Paulus (Baron)
6E - Baldac (General)
6F - Thracia-hei (Lance Armor)

70 - Lenster-hei (Lance Knight)
71 - Lenster-hei (Arch Knight)
72 - Allione (Dragon Master)
73 - McRoy (Dragon Knight)
74 - Codda (Dark Bishop)
75 - Lopto-hei (Dark Mage)
76 - Civilian
77 - Thief
78 - Manster-hei (Sniper)
79 - Youhei (Social Knight)
7A - Priest (female)
7B - Youhei (Sword Fighter)
7C - 21 Gundan (Iron Arch)
7D - Shvel (Baron)
7E - Brook (General)
7F - Silesia-hei (Pegasus Rider)

80 - Nicalaf (General)
81 - Mua (Dark Bishop)
82 - Müller (Mage Knight)
83 - Laincock (Dark Bishop)
84 - Palman (General)
85 - Kant (General)
86 - Gustav (Baron)
87 - Dancer
88 - Sister
89 - Manhaim (General)
8A - Flaus (Bishop)
8B - Seimetle (Dragon Knight)
8C - Zaom (Baron)
- Coen (Baron)
8E - Alphan (Dark Bishop)
8F - Ovis (Dragon Knight)

90 - Farden (Paladin)
91 - Coluta (Dragon Knight)
92 - Reinhardt (Mage Knight)
93 - Nanjy (Civilian)
94 - Tahra's Civilian
95 - Tahra's Civilian
96 - Tahra's Civilian
97 - Tahra's Civilian
98 - Tahra's Civilian
99 - Tahra's Civilian
9A - Youhei (Sword Fighter)
9B - Freege-hei (Long Arch)
9C - Freege-hei (Social Knight)
9D - Freege-hei (Trobadour)
9E - Freege-hei (Bow Armor)
9F - Freege-hei (Lance Armor)

A0 - Freege-hei (Axe Armor)
A1 - Freege-hei (Archer)
A2 - Freege-hei (Mage)
A3 - Lilke (General)
A4 - Manster-hei (Lance Armor)
A5 - Civilian
A6 - Civilian
A7 - Civilian
A8 - Civilian
A9 - Civilian
AA - Civilian
AB - Manster-hei (Mage)
AC - Manster-hei (Priest)
AD - Yurius (Dark Prince) (Yuria's face)
AE - Manfloy (Dark Bishop) (Machua's face)
AF - Manster-hei (Female Mage)

B0 - Manster-hei (Sword Fighter)
B1 - Kentoushi (Mercenary)
B2 - Kentoushi (Warrior)
B3 - Kentoushi (General)
B4 - Kentoushi (Sword Master)
B5 - Kentoushi (Berserker)
B6 - Manster-hei (Priest)
B7 - Bandol (General)
B8 - Lopto-hei (Dark Bishop)
B9 - Truman (General)
BA - Manster-hei (Soldier)
BB - Bandit (Berserker)
BC - Youhei (Female Sword Fighter)
BD - Magi-dan (Female Sword Fighter)
BE - Magi-dan (Axe Fighter)
BF - Magi-dan (Bow Fighter)

C0 - Magi-dan (Sword Fighter)
C1 - Dragon Rider
C2 - Bishop
C3 - Dobolzak (Dragon Knight)
C4 - Manster-hei (Bishop)
C5 - Freege-hei (Long Arch)
C6 - Bandit (Robbing Mountain Thief)
C7 - Thief
C8 - Female Bow Fighter
C9 - Freege-hei (Bishop)
CA - Freege-hei (Lance Armor)
CB - Freege-hei (Bow Armor)
CC - Freege-hei (Mage)
CD - Iron Arch
CE - Freege-hei (Axe Armor)
CF - Aihiman (Mercenary)

D0 - Zail (Warrior)
D1 - Sword Armor
D2 - Soldier
D3 - Freege-hei (Long Arch)
D4 - Eyrios (Mage Knight)
D5 - Silesia-hei (Pegasus Rider)
D6 - Freege-hei (Mage Knight)
D7 - Paladin
D8 - Freege-hei (Great Knight)
D9 - Bow Knight
DA - Sword Armor
DB - Freege-hei (Soldier)
DC - Freege-hei (Arch Knight)
DD - Freege-hei (Trobadour)
DE - Freege-hei (Lance Knight)
DF - Freege-hei (Social Knight)

E0 - Civilian
E1 - Mercenary
E2 - Swordmaster
E3 - Berserker
E4 - Berserker
E5 - Silesia-hei (Pegasus Rider)
E6 - Freege-hei (Axe Armor)
E7 - Freege-hei (Sword Armor)
E8 - Freege-hei (Lance Armor)
E9 - Freege-hei (Long Arch)
EA - Bow Fighter
EB - Female Sword Fighter
EC - Female Mercenary
ED - Xavier (General)
EE - Xavier's Soldier 1
EF - Xavier's Soldier 2

F0 - Xavier's Soldier 3
F1 - Xavier's Soldier 4
F2 - Xavier's Soldier 5
F3 - Xavier's Soldier 6
F4 - Xavier's Soldier 7
F5 - Xavier's Soldier 8
F6 - Civilian
F7 - Civilian
F8 - Civilian
F9 - Civilian
FA - Civilian
FB - Civilian
FC - Civilian
FD - Civilian
FE - Freege-hei (Soldier)
FF - Lenster-hei (Soldier)


[XX-01]

01 - Resistence (Sword Fighter)
02 - Barart (Baron)
03 - Freege-hei (General)
04 - Freege-hei (Sword Armor)
05 - Freege-hei (Priest)
06 - Freege-hei (Poison Arch)
07 - Thracia-hei (Dragon Knight)
08 - Freege-hei (Mage Knight)
09 - Freege-hei (Axe Knight)
0A - Freege-hei (Bow Knight)
0B - Freege-hei (Paladin)
0C - Freege-hei (Lance Knight)
0D - Freege-hei (Sniper)
0E - Freege-hei (Mercenary)
0F - Freege-hei (Bishop)

10 - Freege-hei (Trobadour)
11 - Freege-hei (Female Mage Knight)
12 - Alster-hei (Social Knight)
13 - Alster-hei (Arch Knight)
14 - Alster-hei (Bow Knight)
15 - Alster-hei (Mage Knight)
16 - Freege-hei (Priest)
17 - Freege-hei (Bow Knight)
18 - Freege-hei (Paladin)
19 - Freege-hei (Sword Armor)
1A - Freege-hei (Arch Knight)
1B - Gelplitter (Mage Knight)
1C - Freege-hei (General)
1D - Manster-hei (Duke Knight)
1E - Manster-hei (Bow Knight)
1F - Manster-hei (Great Knight)

20 - Thracia-hei (Dragon Knight)
21 - Civilian
22 - Civilian
23 - Civilian
24 - Civilian
25 - Civilian
26 - Civilian
27 - Civilian
28 - Civilian
29 - Civilian
2A - Civilian
2B - Civilian
2C - Civilian
2D - Civilian
2E - Civilian
2F - Mercenary

30 - Mercenary
31 - Mercenary
32 - Sniper
33 - Ains (Baron) (Leidrik)
34 - Dray (Warrior) (Dagdar)
35 - Dray (Warrior) (Faceless)
36 - Elf (Female Sage) (Sara)
37 - Elf (Female Sage) (Faceless)
38 - Tsuvai (Mercenary) (Galzus)
39 - Tsuvai (Mercenary) (Faceless)
3A - Tsuvelf (Thief Fighter) (Rifis)
3B - Tsuvelf (Thief Fighter) (Faceless)
3C - Fyunf (Female Sniper) (Eyvel)
3D - Fyunf (Female Sniper) (Faceless)
3E - Lopto-hei (Dark Mage)
3F - Lopto-hei (Axe Armor)

40 - Lopto-hei (Bow Armor)
41 - Lopto-hei (Lance Armor)
42 - Manster-hei (Poison Arch)
43 - Leidrik (Baron)
44 - Manster-hei (Sword Armor)
45 - Manster-hei (Soldier)
46 - Freege-hei (Iron Arch)
47 - Thracia-hei (Archer)
48 - Thracia-hei (Bishop)
49 - Thracia-hei (Dragon Rider)
4A - Thracia-hei (Soldier)
4B - Alster-hei (Social Knight)
4C - Pirate
4D - Resistance (Female Bow Fighter)
4E - Resistance (Priest)
4F - Resistance (Axe Fighter)

50 - Resistance (Bow Fighter)
51 - Resistence (Female Sword Fighter)
52 - Resistance (Female Mage)
53 - Manster-hei (General)
54 - Lopto-hei (Dark Mage)
55 - Thracia-hei (Sword Armor)
56 - Wolf (Baron)
57 and forward: glitches.


Some FE4 characters have faces and, sometimes, even dialogues here, but not stats, it looks like. As far I know, they are: Daisy (Patty's replacement), Asaelo (Faval's replacement), Levin, Yuria, Arthur (Tiltyu's son), Janne (Nanna's replacement) and Celice.

[TerranigmaFreak (admin)]

WHAT!? The replacements appear in this game? They have protraits? Do they look the same or different from their FE4 artwork? How about a pickof those guys?

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TerranigmaFreak said:

WHAT!? The replacements appear in this game? They have protraits? Do they look the same or different from their FE4 artwork? How about a pickof those guys?

Just Janne, Daisy and Asaelo portaits are there. Arthur's too. Nothing more. The artwork is different. I'll take some screenshots and post them here.

EDIT: Here they are:

[SpyroDi]

Too bad they didn't have every character from FE4 get an art makeover. They look alot better.

[ESPerion]

wow what're the numbers for those faces??? Arthur's lookin' good as usual ;D how i wish he wore a long pants instead... <mumble>

where do u put those numbers in anyway??

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ESPerion said:

wow what're the numbers for those faces Arthur's lookin' good as usual how i wish he wore a long pants instead... <mumble>

where do u put those numbers in anyway??

The face numbers are somewhere before in this thread (page 5 or 6, I believe). I posted them. They're used in character data.

The character numbers, in the army data. Thank DarkTwilkitri for that. Now, one frontier remains: class change...

Army Data

Leaf (Unit 01) - 18:FD39
Fin (Unit 02) - 18:FD4D

Question marks in Twilkitri's data:

Character Level
Data end (00 00 00 00)

[ESPerion]

one would think class change data is in the class data... not! oh well at least i tried... say u change the class of Dalshien to Baron (obvious?) in the character data, and give him a knight proof, he demotes(!) to a General.

T-T. it obviously is in either army data or character data. and character data, as we know so far, include one ? (after extramove) and piles of 64. this ? thing isn't what we're looking for, so how about army data??

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I think it's somewhere else...
Up now, I don't know two bytes in character data. They aren't what we look for, it seems. And army data is too small, as the five question marks in Twilkitri's text seem to be, as I said, character level and data end (00 00 00 00).

[TerranigmaFreak (admin)]

Wow, that is so cool. But how come these 4 hidden faces look closer to their FE4 artwork, than the actual people who return in FE5? After seeing him use Holsety, I still didn't know that was Sety because he looked so different.

[VincentASM]

I dunno if anyone's interested but i think i've completed the class numbers. It continues from DarkTwilkitri's list.

1D - Lance Armor
1E - Axe Armor
1F - Bow Armor
20 - Sword Armor
21 - Berserker
22 - Mountain Thief
23 - mountain Thief
24 - Warrior
25 - Hunter
26 - Pirate
27 - Junior Lord
28 - Male Mage Fighter 03:077C *all dismounted units from now on
29 - Lord 03:07A0
2A - Prince
2B - Female Mage Knight
2C - Baron (female? it messes up)
2D - Dancer
2E - Male Priest
2F - Male Mage
30 - Ropto Mage
31 - Male Mage
32 - Male Mage
33 - Male High Priest
34 - Bishop
35 - Male Sage
36 - Bard
37 - Sister 03:0998
38 - Dark Mage
39 - Dark Bishop
3A - Male Thief
3B - Male Thief Fighter
3C - Civilian
3D - Long Arch
3E - Iron Arch
3F - Killer Arch
40 - Dark Prince
41 - Axe Fighter 03:0B00
42 - Social Knight
43 - Lance Knight
44 - Male Arch Knight
45 - Axe Knight
46 - Free Knight
47 - Troubadour
48 - Lord Knight
49 - Duke Knight
4A - Master Knight
4B - Male Paladin
4C - Female Paladin
4D - Male Bow Knight
4E - Forest Knight
4F - Great Knight
50 - Pegasus Knight
51 - Falcon Knight
52 - Male Dragon Rider
53 - Male Dragon Knight
54 - Male Dragon Master
55 - Female Arch Knight 03:0DD0
56 - Female Arch Knight Dismounted
57 - Female Bow Knight
58 - Female Bow Knight Dismounted
59 - Female Master Knight (looks garbled!)
5A - (above) dismounted
5B - Female Dragon Rider
5C - (above) dismounted
5D - Female Dragon Knight
5E - (above) dismounted
5F - Female Dragon Master
60 - (above) dismounted
61 - Poison Arch
62 - Mage (female?)
63 - Female Mage
64 - Ropto Mage
65 - Female Mage (Miranda?)
66 - Female Mage Knight 03:1034 mounted
67 - Female Sage
68 - Female Priest
69 - Female High Priest
6A - Female Sword Fighter
6B - Female Forest
6C - Female Swordmaster
6D - Female Bow Fighter
6E - Female Sniper
6F - Female Thief
70 - Female Thief Fighter
71 - Male Mercenary
72 - Male Thief
73 - Pegasus Rider mounted
74 - Pegasus Rider
75 - Soldier 03:1250
76 - Archer
77 - Female Mercenary
78 - messed up
79 - ....
basically all rubbish after this

It'd be cool if you could change the promotion... I don't want my modified Yuria to promote into a sniper...

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VincentASM said:

I dunno if anyone's interested but i think i've completed the class numbers. It continues from DarkTwilkitri's list.

It'd be cool if you could change the promotion... I don't want my modified Yuria to promote into a sniper...

Take a look at the class modification thread... I posted that list there, anyway...

Class change is one of the final frontiers. I have no clue about how changing it...

EDIT:

I HAD no clue.

Othin's promotion slot -> 04:04F6

Have fun.


EDIT 2:

The promotion thing looks simple: character number - 00 - class-change number. For example, Fin is 02-00-08 (at 04:04F2). That means, "Fin (char 02) promotes to Duke Kinight". If you change the "02" to "01", Fin becomes unable to promote through Knight's Proof, as it changes to "Leaf promotes to Duke Knight". Yay.

Now I need to figure out the special promotions. But that requires some playing, so... bleh.

[DarkTwilkitri]

Special promotions? What do you mean?


There were unknowns remaining in the class structure, weren't there? One of them might be the movement type.

It seems odd that they'd use 4 bytes as a terminator, when they seem to be trying to save as much space as possible in other parts of the ROM. Hmm...

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DarkTwilkitri said:

Special promotions? What do you mean?


There were unknowns remaining in the class structure, weren't there? One of them might be the movement type.

It seems odd that they'd use 4 bytes as a terminator, when they seem to be trying to save as much space as possible in other parts of the ROM. Hmm...

Special promotions = event promotions. Leaf to Prince, Laura to Dancer, Linoan to Sage.


I was taking a look at class structure, too. Some of the unknowns indeed are about movement type. Yup, some. At least two of them, when modified, affected the movement.

Odd or not, the first characters had heaps of 00s after their levels. However, I didn't see the next chars. Maybe later in the section, a meaning for those bytes may be discovered.

[DarkTwilkitri]

Ah, those. The only one of them I've actually seen is Laura2Dancer, so I didn't think of it.

It's very likely that they'd be in the event data *shudder*. Now that I think of it, I really should get back to doing the events for FE4... In any case... you'd need to know the dialogue text codes to find the dialogue, then you'd need to get the address of the dialogue and search for that to find the events. At least, that's how it works in 4, it may be different in 5, but I can't see any reason why it would be.
I don't know how dialogue is encoded in FE5. You might try asking luxiferangel, if you can contact him... he should know, otherwise I don't see how he expects to translate the game


Halvan the woodchopper? Heh.
At least, that's what I think it says...