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Post by Arf on Mar 13, 2004 21:46:29 GMT -5
A lot of pre-promoted units r good...jes look at Marcus....lol j/k =)
but seriously...Pent , Percival , Athos , Igrene , Hawkeye............etc
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Post by kyuusei on Mar 14, 2004 4:36:33 GMT -5
You don't use Athos? o.O What about Sety? :P I uh..not far in FE4 yet. Percival was outclassed by my Noah. Pent... my Nino always turns out better. Athos? Using him makes the final chapter way too easy, I'm masochistic and like doing things the hard way. I like raising and promoting units on my own, and getting the most out of my EXP. =P
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Post by Seti on Mar 14, 2004 5:07:46 GMT -5
....kyuusei...use Sety before you judge pre-promoted characters....
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Post by Jet Enduro on Mar 14, 2004 5:11:11 GMT -5
Sety is the best mage out of any Fire Emblem game IMO. Fire Emblem 4 had the best pre promoted units, ever.
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Post by kyuusei on Mar 14, 2004 5:52:56 GMT -5
....kyuusei...use Sety before you judge pre-promoted characters.... *cough* Notice I was only talking about FE6 and 7 ones. Seeing as how I haven't GOTTEN anywhere in 4 or 5 yet.,.. yeah.
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Post by Seti on Mar 14, 2004 5:56:20 GMT -5
Lets see what each game had to offer.
FE4- Shannan, Sety, Sigurd, Cuan, Areone, Oifaye, Claude Theres something obviously wrong here because every single one of them kicks ass! Every single one gets insanely high base stats with growth and also a Holy Weapon except Oifaye who basically is a Sigurd clone anyway!
FE5- Dagduar, Everyle, Glade, Shannam, Sety, Cyas, Xavier, Fred, Olwen I cannot stress how much I want to puke over most these people. Except for 2..... Olwen and Sety out of these vermin you have 2 characters who kick so much ass it isn't funny and Cyas isn't a bad support unit.
FE6- Bartre, Dayun, Yuuno, Cecilla, Percival, Douglas, Marcus, Zealot, Niime, Yoder, Karel, Merlinus, Klein, Igrene Ugh....quite awful really.... Only good ones here are Percival, Klein, Karel and Igrene and yes Merlinus is a pre-promoted unit
FE7- Karla, Karel, Harken, Geitz, Vaida, Pent, Athos, Jaffar, Marcus, Isadora, Hawkeye Some awesome characters there, but 2 major stinkers as well. Marcus and Isadora.
I didn't include FE1-3 because those guys suck regardless.
But my order for best games for pre-promoted characetrs would be.
FE4, FE7, FE5, FE6
FE5 beats FE6 since the 2 characters that don't suck are of a completely different level you can't even compare wheras FE6 has more good characters but they're not in a gods league.
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Post by Jet Enduro on Mar 14, 2004 6:09:18 GMT -5
I agree with you on most of those Seti. Except for some of the Rekka no Ken. Vaida, and Hawkeye are pretty horrible characters. Both of them are owned throughly by their unpromo unit counter parts. Heath, and Dart. Oifay was supposed to be the Jeigan of FE:4 but he never ended up bad for me . Though I wouldn't rank him anywhere near Sigurd though.
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Post by Seti on Mar 14, 2004 6:53:55 GMT -5
Well heres the growth rates and base stats for SIgurd and Oifaye... Growth is on the left and base stats on the right.
Sigurd: Lvl-5 HP- 110/ 35 Str-50/14 Mgc- 5/0 Skl- 50/11 Spd- 30/12 Def- 40/9 Mdef- 5/3 Luck- 40/7
Oifaye: Lvl-15 HP- 100/ 40 Str-50/16 Mgc- 5/9 Skl- 60/17 Spd- 30/16 Def- 30/17 Mdef- 10/8 Luck- 40/8
As you can see Sigurd starts at a lower level and with more or less better stats but I wasn't kidding about the growth, they're basically more or less the same Oifaye having better magic defense and skill. Also Paladin has higher stat caps in everything than Lord Knight. Lord Knight only beats Paladin in strength by 1 point. So in the end they balance out as more or less the same except Sigurd gets Tyrfing. It just shows you how much stronger the enemies in the 2nd generation are compared to 1st.
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Post by TerranigmaFreak (admin) on Mar 14, 2004 10:28:55 GMT -5
Actually both Lord Knight and Paladin max at 25 strength. I don't consider Karla all that great. Like I said, she comes much later than Karel with every stats lower except 1 point higher luck. You only have a few chapters left and Karla just don't cut it.
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Post by Seti on Mar 14, 2004 11:15:25 GMT -5
Actually both Lord Knight and Paladin max at 25 strength. FE Treasure says its 25 for Lord Knight 24 for Paladin.
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Post by ZephyrShakuraus on Mar 14, 2004 21:45:49 GMT -5
Hawkeye is way too slow IMHO.
Sigurd and Cuan start with holy weapons? Wow, I think that i would have noticed that. (Stupid lack of japanese language knowledge and incomplete patch)
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Post by SpyroDi on Mar 14, 2004 21:50:34 GMT -5
OMG! Seti,you forgot Galzus!! *stab* Galzus kicks everyone's ass,regardless of character. Oh yeah,and Zephyr,wouldn't it seem obvious? Their weapons make a cool flashy effect when you use them in battle,plus all those stat bonuses...
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Post by DarkTwilkitri on Mar 14, 2004 22:16:30 GMT -5
Hawkeye is way too slow IMHO. Sigurd and Cuan start with holy weapons? Wow, I think that i would have noticed that. (Stupid lack of japanese language knowledge and incomplete patch) No, they don't start with them, but they can get them. Well, technically, the ally version of Cuan starts with his, but I don't think that he fits the requirements of the people being talked about.
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Post by SpyroDi on Mar 15, 2004 1:26:36 GMT -5
Oh yeah,I forgot something...in FE6 you can have S-rank in a weapon class in multiple weapon classes...I remember one game in FE6 that I used Marcus alot,and in the end I gave him the Durandal,Almace,and Malte. I abused the Arenas just to get his stats good,though.
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Post by Baka on Mar 15, 2004 1:28:41 GMT -5
Lol@Spyro...Marcus...You could've just done that with Lance or something.
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