Major Holy Blood/Full Holy Blood

[AceNoctali]

Hiya everybody !

I'm wondering...
I know that Full Holy Blood (done by coupling Ayra and Holin, and Claude and Sylvia) doubles the normal gains of the Holy Blood...

But, is that also the case then someone has Major Holy Blood (like Ares, Shannan, Celice) ?

Thanks for your answers !

[Seti]

Quote:

"If 2 people of a holy lineage were to have a child they would gain the full power of the gods!"

I think that pretty much answers that I think

[TogeKiD]

This is why people with the same Holy Blood were forbidden to get married and/or have children..

[sindylocuas3]

[MMM.... BTW ARE CLAUDE AND SILVIA BROTHER AND SISTER??? CAUSE IN CHAPTER OF SILECIA CLAUDE TALKS ABOUT HIS SISTER.......ONLY WONDERING IF SILVIA IT'S HIS SISTER...

[Seti]

Well I think they're probably only cousins....but it wouldn't be unusual since incest was pretty common and besides it seems to be the default relationship....

You try telling me Lyn and Corpul have no resemblence to them and I'll be amazed.

[North2]

No they're definitely brother and sister. Their conversation is a dead giveaway. I think Claude said something like, "I had a little sister but she was kidnapped by a band of thieves. If she was here, she would be right around your age." And Sylvia said something like not having a memory. I really don't remember the conversation, but it is implied to the point where it should be taken as a fact that they are in fact brother and sister.

[Koyotae Fan]

We know this and apparently we all decided that unless that they are brother and sister is spelled out, they are not brother and sister.

I mean, being kidnaped by bandits and being around that age isn't that uncommon, look at Brigit. If that happened to two children of NOBLE houses, imagine what the rate would be for common families. And those are from just a sampling of few noble houses, I'm sure there are many more, after all, I'm sure the blood spread out to many families in 770 years.

If Brigit wasn't identical to Edin, I would say Brigit has a better chance of being Claude's sister. Until I see the Holy Blood chart atleast @.@
(Come on! They come in the same chapter!)

[TerranigmaFreak (admin)]

I think people are reading too much into the Claude and Sylvia chat. Just cause Sylvia didn't remember doesn't mean she's his sister. Maybe Sylvia was captured and being held by te same people that took Claude's sister and the 2 became friends.

[North2]

Which just happens to have the same holy blood, happens to be kidnapped around the same time, and happens to be just around the same age.

I'm not saying it's not possible, but in all honesty for any kind of story which have that many hints you're at least SUPPOSED to assume they're brother and sister. If the creators wanted to put a 'twist' into this assumption then they would have put a twist into the assumption.

I mean think about it. There are movies where someone is assumed to be dead because they got surrounded by a bunch of enemies, but he turns out to be alive later on from some god-given miracle. But what if he is alive but he doesn't ever show up in the movie? What would be the point? If everyone who's watching the movie thinks he's dead, but he's actually not dead, but it has absolutely no meaning whatsoever to the storyline so it was never mentioned that he was in fact alive, then he mind as well be dead in the first place.

[North2]

I'll state it in another way. Why would the creators give so many hints that suggest that they are brother and sister if they're not brother and sister? If they wanted to make it more of a mystery then they would have made the information a little more unclear. For anyone who can read the original conversation, they make it very nearly crystal clear.

I think there's something in a conversation between Lynn and Corple that spells it out if Claude was their father, but it could have just been another huge hint.

So to put it in another way, unless it's stated otherwise they ARE brother and sister. There is still a 'maybe' but it's like a 1% chance and I don't see why the creators wouldn't dwell upon it a little more if they wanted it to be a mystery. I believe everyone is reading too far into the 'maybe'.

On the contrary, the creators have huge and obvious reasons why they can't state it outright that they are brother and sister. That's because it'd be INCEST, and Claude is a priest.

[Iris]

North put it nicely. I'm not saying that the people who do game scripts will necessarily be masters of the art of writing, but I think it's fair to assume that they know the golden rule: If you don't need it, don't write it. And that rule goes double for a video game script with limited space, and an audience that will likely be less receptive to rambling than someone who picks up a book--since the gamers aren't there only for the story, but also the gameplay, it follows that the scripters probably realize this and only put in the story that's important.

They're not just going to drop those kinds of hints with no purpose. If there's a catch to it, they'd put in something that doesn't fit, to clue us in. Unless they're really stupid and decide to rely entirely on the deus ex machina to explain everything, which no sane writer is going to do. A reader is going to feel cheated if there aren't small clues to what might be wrong with something.

Take The Matrix as an example. Before we find out that reality as Neo knows it isn't really reality, we have strange clues dropped by Trinity. We have the bizarre events with the Agents. We have some decidedly strange things going on, so we're more able to accept the truth when it comes. It's still a big shock, but we already know that something doesn't fit.

For another example, the first Fushigi Yuugi OVA. Tamahome is trapped in an illusion generated by Tomo, and led to believe that he is really Nakago. At first, everything that happens seems really convincing. When he visits the palace and sees the new emperor, nothing is really out of place. (Yet.) But there he hears that fifty years have passed...and when things get weird and Kaen tells him he's really Nakago, Kouji tells him only one year has passed. The viewer (if my own experience is any indication) already suspected something was wrong at the subconscious level. When Kouji appears, that feeling comes forward and we know something is wrong. And when it's revealed to be an illusion, that's the "aha!" moment.

I'm getting awfully longwinded for just agreeing with what someone else said, but...if you have any skill at telling a story whatsoever, you do not offer up that kind of coincidence with nothing to refute the logical assumption, and then say it's wrong.

[Starwolf]

Demon said:

I'm sure the blood spread out to many families in 770 years.

770 Years? Have you read a translation of the chronology?
770 years is from when the republic of Grandbell was formed. The Gods only appeared about 110 years prior to fe4 because the whole lopto thing was getting a bit out of hand (Dragons tend to stay out of human affairs as much as they can, see ending and possibly fe7).

Its a common mistake.

Full blood get twice the gains of dilute blood.
Full holy blood is the same as major holy blood if that makes it simpler.

[Koyotae Fan]

There is a translated chronology?
-_-

Well, I don't know about the rest of you, but Claude and Sylvia was a pairing in my first play through and I don't like thinking that I just paired a brother and sister up.

If everyone wants them to be brother and sister, then let them be brother and sister.
I'm just wondering if everyone isn't reading too much into it. No need to be so defensive about it.

[North2]

The question isn't whether we WANT it to be incest or not...it's whether they are or aren't.

Hell, even I didn't pair them up again after the first time around.

[Iris]

I'm just wondering if everyone isn't reading too much into it. No need to be so defensive about it.

I'm just saying that from a storytelling standpoint, it would be foolish to assume they aren't brother and sister. Unless the script was written by a drunk monkey with no concept of how to write, which I somehow doubt.