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Post by SetsunasSword on Sept 8, 2003 16:43:31 GMT -5
An interesting battle, who do you think is the worst FE boss?
Is it Idoun... the rather anticlimactic final boss of Fire Emblem: Fuuin no Tsurugi?
Or perhaps one of those crap first level Axe Fighters? If you find them to be the worst, though they may not count...
Or that awesome Long Arch boss from FE3...
Feel free to add your opinion on who you find to be the worst FE boss.
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Post by Lord Ryu Li Ri Tzu on Sept 8, 2003 16:55:16 GMT -5
I think it may very well be Reptoor (excuse my translating), the Baron from Seisen no Keifu. If I remember right, he was in the last chapter in the first half of the game (right before Sigurd DIED!!!!). Plus, he looks like a nerd. I think he and Kanas should be together... they both have that one-eyeglass thing going on...
(*Spoiler... I think*)
BTW... who is this Idoun you speak of? I always thought the last boss in Fuurin no Tsurugi was Zefir, the King with the awesome weapon!!! I was told of Zefir not being the last boss if you did/didn't do something... so can you correct me if I'm wrong here?
(*End of spoiler... whatever...*)
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Post by Beta Food on Sept 8, 2003 17:08:52 GMT -5
She's that cloaked woman you see going around with Zepher.(or however you want to spell it) The one with different color eyes...
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Post by Starwolf on Sept 8, 2003 17:23:37 GMT -5
BTW... who is this Idoun you speak of? I always thought the last boss in Fuurin no Tsurugi was Zefir, the King with the awesome weapon!!! I was told of Zefir not being the last boss if you did/didn't do something... so can you correct me if I'm wrong here?quote] Yeah you are not beating all the gaiden chapters and having all the divine weapons intact. You need all the divine weapons to go onto the last chapters. Idoun is just sad to see 2 hits with the sword of seals and thats it. A real anti-climax. Even fe7s was quite poor but not as bad. I would'nt say Leptor was a crap boss, he has thorhammer and if you do'nt decide to use holsety on him (or silence him or whatever) can be quite a challenge. That fe3 long arch. You know the one General Lang thinks will be a good defence against a group trying him for war crimes with Marth as the Judge, Jurry and Executioner. If you haven't seem the boss hes an absolute Joke (what idiot put him on the castle): Hp:20 Str:1 Skl:0 Spd:0 Def:1 MDef:0 Weapon: Quick rain. Atp 7 Definetly the worst boss of all time at least he comes with the genemi orb. His name escapes everyones mind... Fe gaiden had one those people whos supposed to prduce enemies. Only it didn't but messiah is a pretty good spell. Technically Lawrence from book 2 is the worst boss, he didn't even fight. The recruitable boss is always bad to see from the person who put him on the castle hes a bad boss (a traitor). |
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Post by Lord Ryu Li Ri Tzu on Sept 8, 2003 17:23:57 GMT -5
Hmm... never noticed her... meh, how do you find her?
Wait, lemme guess... go through all the gaiden battles, right?
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Post by The dark prince on Sept 8, 2003 20:02:37 GMT -5
what about beldo from fe5 what a letdown after that game you ecpect a boss that gives a challage HAH
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Post by SetsunasSword on Sept 9, 2003 16:43:21 GMT -5
That Long Arch boss is VERY lame.
Probably takes the title hands down too...
Even those REALLY lame Fighter bosses in most FE games can't compete with them...
I'm still hoping that one day, a Fire Emblem Boss will be tough, with a nice challenging game and nice HP... though not Setsren from Panzer Dragoon Saga ridiculous...
That was TOO boring a fight...
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Post by The dark prince on Sept 9, 2003 16:47:54 GMT -5
That Long Arch boss is VERY lame. Probably takes the title hands down too... Even those REALLY lame Fighter bosses in most FE games can't compete with them... I'm still hoping that one day, a Fire Emblem Boss will be tough, with a nice challenging game and nice HP... though not Setsren from Panzer Dragoon Saga ridiculous... That was TOO boring a fight... hmm what about the magic blocker in fe7? what his point? you can kill the anyone in the stage he is with hector alone soand he dons't have a weapon. |
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Post by Flame Police on Sept 9, 2003 20:25:27 GMT -5
You thought Idoun was bad.....at least she never can be killed in a single non-critical attack, even if Roy has max stats. Medeus in FE1 is the real joke. All you have to do is max out Marth's stats, especially Strength, and one critical, which is somewhat easy to get with 20 Skill and 20 Luck, is ALL Marth needs to kill him and get the map automatically cleared. Medeus also does only what? 30 damage to a 0 Defense unit? When he's up against a 20 Physical Defense unit, that amounts to a measly 10 damage per round (since Medeus's Speed is completely nullified by the Earth Dragon Stone) as opposed to Idoun's 19 damage per hit to a 30 defense unit and she'll be able to hit some units twice as well (making the total 38 damage, which is MORE than half of your units' HP limit (60)). Sure Medeus has the pesky L20 Mamkute with a Magic Dragon Stone guarding him, but once Marth gets past that pest, Medeus is as good as finished and those allies with about 8 HPs left are going to be surviving even if they're surrounded by Doluans.
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Post by Lord Ryu Li Ri Tzu on Sept 9, 2003 20:30:11 GMT -5
Heh... all bosses are a joke to me because I always use PAR codes!
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Post by The dark prince on Sept 10, 2003 0:40:29 GMT -5
You thought Idoun was bad.....at least she never can be killed in a single non-critical attack, even if Roy has max stats. Medeus in FE1 is the real joke. All you have to do is max out Marth's stats, especially Strength, and one critical, which is somewhat easy to get with 20 Skill and 20 Luck, is ALL Marth needs to kill him and get the map automatically cleared. Medeus also does only what? 30 damage to a 0 Defense unit? When he's up against a 20 Physical Defense unit, that amounts to a measly 10 damage per round (since Medeus's Speed is completely nullified by the Earth Dragon Stone) as opposed to Idoun's 19 damage per hit to a 30 defense unit and she'll be able to hit some units twice as well (making the total 38 damage, which is MORE than half of your units' HP limit (60)). Sure Medeus has the pesky L20 Mamkute with a Magic Dragon Stone guarding him, but once Marth gets past that pest, Medeus is as good as finished and those allies with about 8 HPs left are going to be surviving even if they're surrounded by Doluans. yeah but maigc blocker does nothing but sit there and take up space no damage from him what so ever. |
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Post by TerranigmaFreak (admin) on Sept 10, 2003 14:51:36 GMT -5
Are we even playing the same game? You're talking about the FE boss with the highest HP in Fire Emblem history? With enough stats boosts to put Yurius to shame? I don't know but I always thought Beldo of FE5 was pretty cool. His stats are very good, plus the damn altar give him another extra 10 points for magic. Thrones in Thracia 776 are just plain cheap. All in all Beldo was a more worthy boss than Medeus. Sure he didn't really have any cool weapon(the stone spell doesn't count since he can't even use it when you attack him up close). Also, I don't think Idoun was that bad either. Try using other weapon to kil her instead of using Sword Of Seals. Plus Roy isn't always that powerful, I was never able to max out his stats in 5 chapters. I still think Medeus was the worst since some of his stats are at... ZERO!
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Post by Starwolf on Sept 10, 2003 16:24:05 GMT -5
Firstly fe7s final boss does not have the highest hp in fire emblem history. Fe gaidens final boss Dolum does.
And secondly all those stat boosts and that they mean bugger all. Atos can do 42 damage with Aerial its dead in 3 turns. Add in overpowerd lords and its much less than 3 turns usually 1.
As for Medius being bad. As if Marths stats would be all 20. The 1/2 attack thing the earth dragon does is useful.
I wouldn't be surpriesed if it is'nt in the NES version.
Roy will usually be good enough to kill Iodun in one or 2 turns.
Beldo was OK. Had to kill him quick else he wou;ld rocover his hp.
The topic was worst boss not worst final boss. That one that gets killed by sety is pretty bad. You don't have to do anything to kill him.
But the long arch was a joke. Sorry Iu forgot you don't play fe3 because its "too hard".
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Post by Flame Police on Sept 10, 2003 18:24:33 GMT -5
As for Medius being bad. As if Marths stats would be all 20. The 1/2 attack thing the earth dragon does is useful. I wouldn't be surpriesed if it is'nt in the NES version. Roy will usually be good enough to kill Iodun in one or 2 turns. Medeus doesn't cut damage in half in the NES version. All he has to fight off the 30 Sharpness Falchion with is 45 HPs and 35 Physical Defense (including the bonus 23 points from the Earth Dragon Stone). If Marth has anywhere near 20 Strength, that is NOT going to save him. And Camus has a higher attack rating (at 34), though he is certainly the toughest boss in FE1, thanks to high Skill and Speed. I'm sure, though, that if you had to have Marth withstand attacks from a unit like Camus, you can have him stand anything Medeus throws at you. Not to mention Medeus never budges an INCH! That makes it easy to strike him with the Elephant Gun, Partia, and Gladius (all capable of damaging Medeus if the users have enough Strength). That doesn't mean that a final boss shouldn't be awarded the title of worst boss. In fact, a crappy final boss is MORE likely to be the worst boss because final bosses are supposed to be tougher than other bosses. |
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Post by TerranigmaFreak (admin) on Sept 11, 2003 9:23:53 GMT -5
Dolum? I don't remember how much HP this guy had. How much was it?
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