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Post by Tiger of the Wind on Mar 18, 2004 20:12:48 GMT -5
Here's a simple solution: Oswin+Iron Rune+Swordslayer.
Watch the massacre begin.
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Post by ZephyrShakuraus on Mar 18, 2004 20:33:32 GMT -5
*looks at Kenshins Guy*
Max str? I use a Power Ring on my Guy and he only had 17 str when he hit level 20/20. My Raven had about 22 Skill. A Lyn with max luck? Damn RNG screwing me again.
I seriously hope that FE6 is released in English. And I hope the bonus for Swordmasters is upped back to 30 in FE8, which I also want to come to North America, despite the fact I know nothing of it.
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Post by kharn the betrayer on Mar 18, 2004 21:03:31 GMT -5
ok against your oswin ill use wendy and watch her run circles around him or maybe rei or sophia and watch them abuse apocalypse to death or lugh with forblaze
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Post by kenshin on Mar 19, 2004 0:22:57 GMT -5
hehe...how many skill points does oswin have?...20? 15?...he wont hit anything dude...not even with the 30 hit bonus of the swordslayer...there is also a sword called...lancereaver, which also does the job, like armorslayer XDD....
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Post by kenshin on Mar 19, 2004 0:27:02 GMT -5
*looks at Kenshins Guy* Max str? I use a Power Ring on my Guy and he only had 17 str when he hit level 20/20. My Raven had about 22 Skill. A Lyn with max luck? Damn RNG screwing me again. hmmm .. no it didnt, i simply used Godess Icon on Lyndis and also Power Ring on guy...well, its simply normal then --;
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Post by Tiger of the Wind on Mar 19, 2004 1:41:54 GMT -5
Against Fir: 27*2+15/2+15+5+weapon accuracy-(30*2+30)=weapon accuracy-9=71 Against Wendy: 27*2+15/2+5+weapon accuracy -(22*2+30)=weapon accuracy-8=72
In addition, swordslayer is effective against swordmasters.
Use armorkiller, and Fir is going to get owned. First: 30+(6-11)=25 AS. This means Fir may lose the 2x, depending on Oswin's spd. Second: Damage=22+8*3-30=16 for Fir. Damage=29+11*3+1-23=40 for Oswin.
You switch to lancereaver, I switch to Basilikos. It's that simple when Oswin has 2 weapon choices, while Fir can only switch around swords.
By the way, Oswin actually has a higher spd cap than Wendy.
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Post by Cyghfer on Mar 19, 2004 11:45:01 GMT -5
well, I know your not talking about arena teams right now... but here's my best one: Hector LV20 HP 56 STR 30 SKL 24 SPD 17 LK 17 DEF 26 RES 12 brave axe, killing edge, wolf beil, basilikos, armads Heath LV20 HP 59 STR 27 SKL 25 SPD 23 LCK 16 DEF 24 RES 17 killing edge, delphi shield, killer lance, lancereaver, rex hasta Rath LV20 HP 53 STR 25 SKL 23 SPD 29 LCK 15 DEF 14 RES 13 rienfleche, killing edge, lancereaver, killer bow, iron rune Raven LV20 (he got an A with axes) HP 55 STR 25 SKL 26 SPD 25 LCK 15 DEF 21 RES 8 swordslayer, killing edge, regal blade, wind sword, silver axe Lyn LV20 HP 51 STR 22 SKL 29 SPD 30 LCK 27 DEF 10 RES 19 sol katti, wo dao, mani katti, lancereaver, killer bow
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Post by meh on Mar 19, 2004 16:11:28 GMT -5
hehe..i dont think so XD if some units has got the same affin like the tactican himself, they usually only get some "endstat" bonus...like Avoid, hit, crit or even str...it has nothing to do with RNG ^-^
wrong units with same affin as the tactician get a 5% growth rate bonus so that gives karla a 60% speed growth rate
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Post by ZephyrShakuraus on Mar 19, 2004 21:04:46 GMT -5
Oh right and I also used the Affa's Drops on Guy and his strength is still only average.
Well after half a dozen pointless topics, I've finally beat the game (again) and I have a team.
*=Maxed
Hector Great Lord 20/20 HP: 58 Str: 28 Skill: 22 Speed: 23 Luck: 11 Def: 29* Res: 14 Con: 15 Weapons: Armads, Basilikos, Brave Axe Weapon Levels: Axe: S Sword: B No items that I can think of.
Raven Hero 20/20 HP: 60 Str: 25* Skill: 23 Speed: 26* Luck: 14 Def: 17 Res: 10 Con: 9 Weapons: Regal Blade, Killing Edge, Tomahawk, Killer Axe, Silver Axe Weapon Levels: Swords: S Axes: A Um, no items.
Oswin General 20/20 HP: 60 Str: 26 Skill: 20 Speed: 18 Luck: 13 Def: 30* Res: 15 Con: 16 Weapons: Brave Lance, Rex Hasta, Silver Lance, Killer Lance Weapon Levels: Lances: S Axe: D Relevent Support: Matthew C
Matthew Assasin 20/20 HP: 53 (Angelic Robe) Str: 18 Skill: 24 Speed: 30* Luck: 21 Def: 17 (Maybe Dragonshield) Res: 9 (Maybe Talisman) Con: 7 Weapons: Killing Edge, Silver Sword Weapon Level: Swords: S Relevant Supports: Guy B, Oswin C Tactician Affinity Match
Guy Swordmaster 20/20 HP: 52 Str: 19 (Item) Skill: 29* Speed: 30* Luck: 20 (Maybe Goddess Icon) Def: 13 (Dragonshield) Res: 13 Con: 6 Weapons: Killing Edge, Silver Sword Item: Iron Rune Weapon Levels: Swords: S Relevent Supports: Matthew B Affa's Drops
What do ya think?
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Post by omertop on Mar 20, 2004 9:50:42 GMT -5
Here's mine: Hector LV 20/20 Great Lord HP 57 Str 30 Skill 24 Spd 24 Luck 14 Def 29+5 Res 13 Armads Brave Axe Swordslayer Longsword Iron Rune Kent LV 20/20 Paladin HP 53 Str 25 Skill 22 Spd 23 Luck 7 Def 18 Res 15 Regal Blade Brave Lance Killer Axe Spear Armorslayer Lucius LV 20/20 Bishop HP 44 Mag 25 Skill 26 Spd 24 Luck 11 Def 9 Res 27 Aura Aureola Divine Shine Luce Nino OR Priscilla LV 20/20 Sage LV 20/20 Valkyrie HP 40 HP 36 Mag 25 Mag 25 Skill 27 Skill 24 Spd 26 Spd 24 Luck 23 Luck 30 Def 11 Def 14 Res 25 Res 28 (Con 4+2 for Nino) Thunder Fimbulvetr Excalibur Elfire Fire Florina LV 20/20 Falcoknight HP 51 Str 23 Skill 25 Spd 28 Luck 28 Def 10 Res 17 Delphi Shield Killing Edge Killer Lance Runesword
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Post by TheGayThiefLegault on Mar 20, 2004 10:10:41 GMT -5
Here's my winning combo: Hector, Lv20 Great Lord 59 HP 30 Strength 24 Skill 24 Speed 15 Luck 29 Defense 20 Resistance Note: +4 for Constitution Wields: Armads, Basilikos, Swordslayer, Brave Sword, Iron Rune Support: A-Matthew, B-Oswin Matthew, Lv 20 Assassin 54 HP 19 Strength 21 Skill 30 Speed 19 Luck 16 Defense 15 Resistance Note: +2 for Move Wields: Regal Blade, Killing Edge, Runesword,Light Brand, Lancereaver Support: A-Hector, B-Guy Oswin, Lv. 20 General 58 HP 28 Strength 20 Skill 13 Speed 14 Luck 29 Defense 11 Resistance Wields: Rex Hasta, Brave Lance, Swordreaver, Brave Axe, Killer Axe Support: A-Serra, B-Hector Serra, Lv.20 Bishop 50 HP ;D 19 Magic 18 Skill 24 Speed 30 Luck 9 Defense 26 Resistance Wields: Aureola, Luce, Divine, Shine. Support: A-Oswin Guy, Lv. 20 Swordmaster 53 HP 22 Strength 26 Skill 30 Speed 19 Luck 14 Defense 9 Resistance Wields: Killing Edge,Runesword,Light Brand, Armorslayer,Lancereaver Support: B-Matthew
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Post by kenshin on Mar 20, 2004 11:48:09 GMT -5
Against Fir: 27*2+15/2+15+5+weapon accuracy-(30*2+30)=weapon accuracy-9=71 In addition, swordslayer is effective against swordmasters. Use armorkiller, and Fir is going to get owned. First: 30+(6-11)=25 AS. This means Fir may lose the 2x, depending on Oswin's spd. Second: Damage=22+8*3-30=16 for Fir. Damage=29+11*3+1-23=40 for Oswin. You switch to lancereaver, I switch to Basilikos. It's that simple when Oswin has 2 weapon choices, while Fir can only switch around swords. HUAUHAUHAHUAHUUAHHUAA.... there goes our wanna be expert.... 1:look at my screenshot again and youll figure out that my Fir has got 109 Avoid instead of 90 like you have expected...(this comes from supporting..learn that) so 71-19 = 52...LOL!have fun at hitting...btw...your Oswin never has 27 Skill points..!(30%increase chance..)if you are lucky you may have 22Skill points but no more!!!which makes you loose another 10 hit%...Total Hit: 42 2.yes swordslayer is indeed effective on swordmasters...if you are able to hit of course... 3.too bad that i got so much money at 21th chapter so that i bought like 20 body rings...(i sold all my remaining useless knight crests..)most of them i used of my pegasi knights...but my fir still has got 2 con more...so 8...enough for a double... 4.why is this called Arena team? if you dont have 5 members...well may be my Fir dies...your oswin wont survive after that as well, but i still have 2 swordmasters left...: since you only will have one iron rune, that should be your very end...
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Post by kharn the betrayer on Mar 20, 2004 11:56:20 GMT -5
you got lucky with fir she always has guy like str in my games but i still love her along witht he other sword masters cept i tend to buy angel robes for karel for some reason
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Post by kenshin on Mar 20, 2004 12:01:05 GMT -5
you got lucky with fir she always has guy like str in my games but i still love her along witht he other sword masters cept i tend to buy angel robes for karel for some reason hehe, karel is too old for the battle...i used like 2 speed wings to get him on 28..-.-;;
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Post by kharn the betrayer on Mar 20, 2004 12:07:42 GMT -5
i istill use him though when ever i find my damned fe6 cartridge im gonna arena abuse with people i dont care about till i have crap loads of money and buy shit loads of stat boost items
but who cares if karels to old he still kicks ass any ways now just look at bartre hes younger than karel and sucks balls compaird to karel and fir
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