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Post by DarkTwilkitri on Mar 29, 2004 23:19:39 GMT -5
I think that it's pretty much a given that Aion of the Black Fang is not the Lord of Araphen from Lyn's path, despite their similar looks. But how many people think that the translators thought so? Especially with their sharing of the same view of the Sacae Nomads...
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Post by kyuusei on Mar 29, 2004 23:30:13 GMT -5
I actually don't remember a damned thing that Aion said about Sacaeians. I certainly would have remembered that. =P Anyone care to refresh my memory?
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Post by Eaichu on Mar 29, 2004 23:32:37 GMT -5
I actually don't remember a damned thing that Aion said about Sacaeians. I certainly would have remembered that. =P Anyone care to refresh my memory? When he's speaking of Uhai, he mentions something similar to Saceans having no mind for talent or something. I know that he said something about them, but I can't remember what....
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Post by kyuusei on Mar 29, 2004 23:42:08 GMT -5
Oh that. Yeah, I don't remember the exact words, but it was something similar.
Though that wouldn't necessarily mean that he was Lord Araphen, or that the translators thought so. Disdain for the Sacaeians is widespread in Elibe.
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Post by Arf on Mar 30, 2004 0:43:24 GMT -5
im pretty sure they were the same guy.....(how, I dont know)
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Post by DarkTwilkitri on Mar 30, 2004 6:52:47 GMT -5
I haven't really noticed much disdain for them apart from with Araphen and Aion... and to a lesser extent Nergal...
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Post by Hystrix on Mar 30, 2004 9:15:37 GMT -5
It's possible, but it really wouldn't make sense that a lord of a Lycian house would find reason to join a league of Bern assassins.
Unless... Marquess Araphen is just an cover identity! Aion could have killed the real Marquess long ago and took his place (using magic make-up). With a foothold on Lycia, the Black Fang can be everywhere in the country now...
Lord by day, caped killer at night! He's... Aion!
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Post by CO Raptor on Mar 30, 2004 9:21:00 GMT -5
Well, "Sacaean mongrel" sounds quite different from "certain rough talent, but no mind for planning". I'd say Araphen is a racist, while Aion just thinks himself superior to anyone else. So no, I don't think they're the same guy, nor that the translators thought that. Does anyone know how the text translates in the japanese version?
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Post by BigBeuBeu on Mar 30, 2004 11:42:20 GMT -5
Unless... Marquess Araphen is just an cover identity! Aion could have killed the real Marquess long ago and took his place (using magic make-up). With a foothold on Lycia, the Black Fang can be everywhere in the country now... Remember..... Black Fang is not evil, they're manipulate, so they have no interest by killing Araphen's lord long time before Nergal's plan.....
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Post by kyuusei on Mar 30, 2004 14:27:39 GMT -5
Sacaeians ARE generally looked down upon by the rest of Elibe. It's more obvious in FE6. And Lyn's mother running off to be with a Sacaeian wasn't exactly happy news in the house of Caelin.
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Post by Hystrix on Mar 30, 2004 18:45:41 GMT -5
Remember..... Black Fang is not evil, they're manipulate, so they have no interest by killing Araphen's lord long time before Nergal's plan..... Point... yeah.
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Post by LadyDragon on Mar 30, 2004 21:50:39 GMT -5
The lord of Araphen is just one of the many people who consider those who come from Sacae to be inferior, one reason of course is because they are mostly nomads. Those who live in one place and don't move about can't really understand what motivates these people to keep moving around, and rather than admit that they themselves may not hold all the answers, these people prefer to write the Sacaen nomads off as inferior. Also people hear stories about the Sacaen people, (i.e. Farina, "So the tribes in Sacae, they all, like, dance around a fire and chant "Ooga Booga," don't they?") Aion is simply an egotistical jerk who thinks that he somehow is above everyone else because he has a "mind for planning"
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Post by SwordsAreShiney on Mar 30, 2004 21:51:29 GMT -5
Sacaeians ARE generally looked down upon by the rest of Elibe. It's more obvious in FE6. And Lyn's mother running off to be with a Sacaeian wasn't exactly happy news in the house of Caelin. ya, but sacae could kick any other country's ass.
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Post by Shoen on Mar 30, 2004 22:30:11 GMT -5
ya, but sacae could kick any other country's ass. Explain FE6.
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Post by Tiger of the Wind on Mar 30, 2004 22:39:09 GMT -5
ya, but sacae could kick any other country's ass. Precisely why Sacae was first taken over by Bern then by Etruria.
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