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Post by Gunlord100 on Mar 6, 2003 21:48:19 GMT -5
Forseti is the holy warrior who uses Holsety. Levin is his descendant, so Levin can use Holsety as well, because he has his ancestor Forseti's blood flowing in his veins.
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Post by TogeKiD on Mar 6, 2003 21:56:36 GMT -5
Oh, okay.. never knew that.. I always thought the warriors were called after the Holy Blood.. I guess not.. *thinks* Wait!! Wasn't the warrior of Fala called Salamando or something!? I thought I read that somewhere.. could have been on this forum though.. must have forgot it again..
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Post by synthetic on Mar 6, 2003 22:32:49 GMT -5
I thought the warrior that possessed Levin was called Sety...whatever. Btw, Forsetii and Holsety are the same thing. Just different spellings. Yeah, not all warriors are called after their holy blood...there's Saint Heim and the Narga spell and Narga blood...right? O.o Fala warrior Salamando? I thought I heard that too, but I'm not really sure...hm...
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Post by TogeKiD on Mar 6, 2003 22:38:59 GMT -5
If I'm not the only one, than I guess it can be possible right? I'm not sure about the name though..
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Post by SummerWolf on Mar 7, 2003 6:51:48 GMT -5
I think Holsety is one of those mis-romanizations, intentional or no, of those mythological names. In katakana, Forseti and Holsety looks just about the same (I've seen bad translators spell Thor as Toll, you know, in a Norse-related manga). Forseti is the god of justice in Norse mythology.
Yep, the Wind Warrior's name is Sety.
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Post by Flame Police on Mar 7, 2003 19:48:38 GMT -5
Stu couldn't get on the board soooooooo........
"Chapter 5:
"Leaf and crew enters Lederick's battle arena. This is where Eyvale was taken to. She finds Nana ok but Mareeta was not there. Lederick won't let Eyvale see Mareeta until she beats his warriors in the arena. Eyvale warns Nana to get back and prepares to battle. Beldo gets impatient, but Lederick says the best is saved for last. After Eyvale beats a few of the warriors Lederick calls in Mareeta. Eyvale was relieved to find her ok, but Mareeta wouldn't answer. She keeps saying kill, she must kill everyone. Eyvale demands to know what Lederick did to Mareeta. Lederick acts all innocent and pretends he doesn't know what happened. All he did was provide Mareeta with a sword so she could use it to escape. It was a treasured sword kept locked up in a vault, the demon sword. Eyvale's really pissed off. That sword turns anyone into an insane killing machine. "Do you dare to fight someone that you loved like she was your own daughter?" As the battle rages on Lederick is getting annoyed that Mareeta still hasn't finished off Eyvale. Beldo knows why Mareeta couldn't finish off Eyvale, because she's fighting to break free of the sword's spell. "Just look at the tears in her eyes, she fighting against the sword magic with all her might." Soon Leaf and gang arrives to save Nana and Eyvale. Lederick was really pissed off and frantic now and orders his soldier to kill Leaf. He calls in his guards screaming Eyvale is coming to get him, she's gonna kill him. Beldo told Lederick to calm down and he teleports Eyvale to him, then he uses his Stone magic on Eyvale and turned her into a statue. Lederick laughs at the beauty of the Stone Spell. Now he has another statue of a beautiful warrior to decorate is house with. Leaf was really sad and mad at the Empire now but there's nothing he can do for her. All he can do now is escape and become stronger, strong enough to tople the Grandbell Empire and return to save Eyvale."
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Post by Gunlord100 on Mar 7, 2003 21:14:56 GMT -5
I believe the Flame God is Salamando, and the warrior who used the Holy Weapon is Fala. The Weapon itself is called FA-RA-FU-RE-I-MU, or thats what its katakana literally spell (although my knowledge of Japanese is quite limited, so I'm probably wrong) so the Holy Weapon is properly translated as Fala Flame. Thus, the Fire God is Salamando, the Fire Warrior is Fala, and his weapon is the Fala Flame. Also, since I believe H can also be F when Romanized, Forsetti could be different from Holsety. In the screen that gives the character's Holy Blood, they give the name of the warriors who used the weapons, not the weapons themselvs. The name next to the Wind Magic is Holsety. Thus, it follows that the Wind Warrior was Holsety, and he used Forseti.
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Post by SummerwolfCollege on Mar 8, 2003 8:27:49 GMT -5
Too lazy to log in. I'm still not home.
You're correct about Fala and Falaflame, gunlord...except for the fact that, at least as far as mangas go, Fala is a gal. Nothing in-game ever says this of course, though I haven't retried the game in its Japanese glory yet. (So many nuances of speaking...can be converted in Thai, but the majority of them lost in English...)
The Wind Warrior's name, that's another matter. It's really Sety. See the chapter 4 dialogues when Queen Lana gives Holsety to Levin. If we believe in the mythological connections as basis for Forseti-Holsety, then I think it's the same case that Vallhalla is Barhara (Yes, they are spelled the same in Japanese...I've seen it romanized that way three or four times) and the in-game map spells Tara as Tahra, Til-na-nOgue as Tirnanog, and so on. Or at least that's my opinion about it. I'm none too good at Japanese either.
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Post by Gunlord100 on Mar 8, 2003 22:45:55 GMT -5
Oh, Fala was female? Er...which mangas did you get this from, Summerwolf? Are there actually any mangas out there that detail the original struggle of the Holy Warriors against Loputous? That would be totally cool, we'll finally be able to actually see who all our favorite characters are actually descended from On another note, I don't have the patch yet, and I refuse to get it until it's 100% and all the bugs and glitches in it have been fixed (My computer's bad buggy enough as it is), so what is the conversation in chapter 4 specifically, Summerwolf? I don't want to impose, but if it's not too much trouble, would you mind enlightening me? One last thing: You said that the Thai language can reciprocate many of the "nuances" of the Japanese language. If I may ask, what specific linguistic nuances might those be? Are Thai and Japanese linguistically related, much like French and Italian (by a common Latin ancestor)? I'm somewhat interested in language, so please don't be offended by my inquisitiveness ^_^
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Post by SummerWolf on Mar 10, 2003 12:02:13 GMT -5
It was in the Fujimori Natsu manga...it was shown in a silhouette, so nobody can be sure. But Fala's silhouette is so very distinctly a gal. 'Fala' also doesn't sound like a guy name.
Although, now that I come to think of, 'Sety' is also depicted quite...feminine. I'm none to sure about it. Me and my big mouth. Eep.
I admit that Chapter 4 bores me to tears (it must have something to do with the absence of Lenster, methinks. Coughcough) Lana was telling Levin about some principles of Sety's peace ideas and gave him Holsety when his answers prove his worth. Something like that.
Nope, it's not related, even though the origins of my language is still a debated topic. There are some similiarities, borrowed words and expressions and such from Chinese, but not as much as to be called 'related'. As far as Asian languages go, I think the majority of them have them nuances that western languages can't quite catch. And the majority of said nuances...relate to each other to some degree. There's words that stand for various forms of expression perfectly while I have to improvise a lot in English.
Of course, there are many figures of speech that carried over from manga culture. Here, you can translate 'chan' as 'chan' without anybody minding anything. =P
I'm not good at languages myself...so I'm not sure if that answers your question.
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Post by Gunlordatschool on Mar 10, 2003 12:07:05 GMT -5
Ah, I see. Thank you very much Summerwolf. One question though, what's the Fujimori Natsu manga?
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Post by SummerWolf on Mar 10, 2003 12:15:40 GMT -5
Fujimori Natsu/Nuts wrote a gag manga on the parent generation of FE4. It's the first manga that I managed to make sense of, and it's deliciously funny.
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Post by Sety not logged in on Mar 12, 2003 8:45:11 GMT -5
Summerwolf you know the gag manga by Fujimori Nattsu? Is it a 4 panel comic or not?
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Post by SummerWolf on Mar 12, 2003 11:01:29 GMT -5
No, it's regular.
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Post by Eaichu on Mar 12, 2003 16:51:50 GMT -5
I admit that Chapter 4 bores me to tears (it must have something to do with the absence of Lenster, methinks. Coughcough) Lana was telling Levin about some principles of Sety's peace ideas and gave him Holsety when his answers prove his worth. Something like that. I'm amazed at how nobody could be bored of playing Chapter 4, everything moves so pathetically slow and the constant annoying enemies makes you not want to play it. ^_^;
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