Seti
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Post by Seti on Oct 11, 2003 10:25:09 GMT -5
Corpul is different....
Corpul is a healer unit so he's more useful than an extra attack unit. Plus he uses high level staves which level him up like one level per use especially Reserve and Valkyrie. Added with Patty + Shannan + Bargain Ring I can get tons of money to pay for his staffs.
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Post by The dark prince on Oct 11, 2003 14:04:21 GMT -5
Sorry I meant to say Tinny, but yes Tinny and Tiltyu I never managed to even class change they both come too late at too low a level with too low defense. you say you get tinny late less time i checked you get her at the end of the the same stage you get aless and finally nanna she not that hard to level up in arena
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Post by Seti on Oct 11, 2003 14:39:20 GMT -5
Nanna= Earth Sword/Prayer Sword/Charisma and ability to heal and mounted
Ares= Misolteen/Social Knight/Spears and Swords/Pinch Strike/all-round stats/decently high level and mounted
Tinny= Wrath/ElThunder/Wrath/ Low level and low def and mgc def and dismounted
As far as I'm concerned low mgc def and def and Wrath don't compliment each other at all. Ares comes at a good time with plenty of prey to level off and a badass sword plus first attack and also well rounded starting stats. Nanna can easily level up by healing and also with Charisma helps out also has a healing sword plus being mounted helps her move around alot later on so she doesn't even really battle shes good support unit. Tinny although powerful, shes hard to get to and leave on the battle field since she goes down in practically one hit and has low move. She doesn't do well in arena especially since I don't use save states, only time I use them is for messing around. Plus the 2nd gen enemies you just don't even think about taking lightly. Arthur comes at the begining plus slightly better def and mgc def which is why I regard Arthur better. I'm sure Tinny could become powerful but fact is with the strength of the 2nd gen enemies I'm just not going to bother.
Its more to do with the class, Mage Knights aren't useful if they come later on at lower levels and lower stats, since due to their diversity they're meant to be fighters but since you already have plenty a support unit is more useful which is why Corpul ranks higher than Tinny for me. Eyrios and Olwen were examples of good timed Mage Knights. One came relatively early and the other came late but had high stats anyway.
Even Tiltyu was more useful to me since she came at a time when the enemies were all weak little pirates, Tinny comes at a time when your having your head getting kicked in by a full force assualt by 2nd gen Mage Knights and Dragon Knights....-.-
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Post by The dark prince on Oct 11, 2003 14:43:22 GMT -5
since when does that chapter you get her has dragons? and besides if a person can level up oafy they can level up someone they at least just going to be used to kill off dragons i try to level everyone i can but that doesn't mean i use them look at my lakche she powerful but used nah she brand new and still needs a test drive
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Post by Seti on Oct 11, 2003 14:53:03 GMT -5
Sorry I should have made that clearer.....
AFTER you beat Bloom and Trabant tries to take advantage, its not fun being pelted by Dragons when shes only just joined.
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Post by The dark prince on Oct 11, 2003 14:56:07 GMT -5
Sorry I should have made that clearer..... AFTER you beat Bloom and Trabant tries to take advantage, its not fun being pelted by Dragons when shes only just joined. funny i never had a problem with that i usually let patty solo most of the dragons and then have fee kill off the rest tinny in my files really levels in the next stage when i let myself get blocked in after i have the level fee gained less chapter to kiil off the pirates and the forest knights and female mercnay
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Post by Seti on Oct 11, 2003 15:02:03 GMT -5
Hmm that maybe so for you but I have trouble leveling the girl as I constantly keep moving and Tinny always gets left behind because shes too slow. I really like getting good time rankings.
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Post by The dark prince on Oct 11, 2003 15:16:58 GMT -5
Hmm that maybe so for you but I have trouble leveling the girl as I constantly keep moving and Tinny always gets left behind because shes too slow. I really like getting good time rankings. i like my wall of meats tactic besides while getting a good time might be easier if i didn't want to make pairings but then again get one A ranking and i happy
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Post by Adilink on Oct 11, 2003 17:03:10 GMT -5
You know, Toge would go insane at the sight of this topic..
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Post by The dark prince on Oct 11, 2003 17:17:22 GMT -5
You know, Toge would go insane at the sight of this topic.. why? and yes i don't know must get my shin megami game up to date must have a level 15 but too tired of getting rejected by nearly every demon
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Post by Starwolf on Oct 11, 2003 17:33:38 GMT -5
OK Tiltyu does not suck. Tinny does not suck. Linda dsoes not suck. Amid certainly doesn't suck if you care about stats.
Artur is a puny mage knight. They along withg the Lord knight have terrible stat caps (Whats this 22 in speed, skill and 25 in their attacking values). Amid gets stat caps of 27. So in a deul the mage fighter would beast the mage knight. However, the mage knight can move about but the mage fighter is stronger (what do you mean you Ratche lovers hate land units).
Titltyu and her children will rule by defealt. The skill of wrath. It can practically gaurentee victory in the Arena EVERY TIME. If they die all the better they critical instantly. Just try again and again untill you win. Linda definetly rules. Elite and Wrath and she can use Toron from the outset. she usually ends up on par with Tinny.
So to conclude I don't care which mages I get, subsitute or not subsitute, they rule.
Just a quick one here. You are saying that Tinny is weak and that then saying patty rules. Am I missing something?
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Post by InsaneZero on Oct 11, 2003 19:07:32 GMT -5
You know, Toge would go insane at the sight of this topic.. Heh, that's what I thought when I first saw this thread, too. Where is he, anyway?
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Post by The dark prince on Oct 11, 2003 19:22:01 GMT -5
OK Tiltyu does not suck. Tinny does not suck. Linda dsoes not suck. Amid certainly doesn't suck if you care about stats. Artur is a puny mage knight. They along withg the Lord knight have terrible stat caps (Whats this 22 in speed, skill and 25 in their attacking values). Amid gets stat caps of 27. So in a deul the mage fighter would beast the mage knight. However, the mage knight can move about but the mage fighter is stronger (what do you mean you Ratche lovers hate land units). Titltyu and her children will rule by defealt. The skill of wrath. It can practically gaurentee victory in the Arena EVERY TIME. If they die all the better they critical instantly. Just try again and again untill you win. Linda definetly rules. Elite and Wrath and she can use Toron from the outset. she usually ends up on par with Tinny. So to conclude I don't care which mages I get, subsitute or not subsitute, they rule. Just a quick one here. You are saying that Tinny is weak and that then saying patty rules. Am I missing something? wrath can miss so she can't win in the arena every time
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Post by VolCanon2 on Oct 12, 2003 3:08:29 GMT -5
Arthur with Holsety is nice except Tiltyu always marries adan or Trabant
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Post by Seti on Oct 12, 2003 4:41:41 GMT -5
Just a quick one here. You are saying that Tinny is weak and that then saying patty rules. Am I missing something? I didn't say she ruled....I said I find her more useful....... Basically, make relationship with Shannan x Patty and give him the Bargain Ring and Thief Ring or Thief Sword, then after that Shannan has near no trouble maxing out money, just give all the money to Patty and get some more, it gives you a constant supply of cash so it becomes pretty easy to raise everyone. I'm saying I find a cash machine more useful because shes very pathetic if it weren't for her class. I'm just generally not a fan of Tinny because I just have too much trouble leveling her up properly without neglecting my other units because of her movement. Also I always give my leg rings to Sety and one of my healers. I'm just saying with the ammount of fighting units with also high attack ranges or high movement I just find her about as practical as Hannibal. She can definitely become strong being a Mage Fighter and having Wrath PLUS SHES CUTE! But I just can't be bothered with leveling her since Arthur has already promoted by then so she usually sits around guarding the base with Hannibal.
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