Love numbers

[Aice]

You've probably all seen this before, but I was looking at the love values page from fireemblem.net, and came up with some numbers based on their tables. (the # of turns a character would need in order to become lovers) I listed the names of the girls and put the guys in ascending order of turns.
Boosts are conversations that give extra points to affection values. They make things a lot easier.

1st generation

Edin:
Claude 117 turns
Beowulf 200 turns
Levin 225 turns
Adan, Noiche, Alec, Lex, Finn, Deu, Holin 250 turns
Jamuka 250 turns
Azel and Midayle 380 turns
Boosts: Azel, Midayle, Deu

Ayra:
Claude 150 turns
Levin and Beowulf 225 turns
Everyone else 250 turns
Boosts: Lex, Holin

Lachesis:
Claude 150 turns
Everyone else 225 turns
Boosts: Deu, Beowulf

Sylvia:
Levin 150 turns
Everyone else 167 turns
Claude 310 turns
Boosts: Alec, Levin, Claude

Fury:
Claude 133 turns
Levin 145 turns
Everyone else 225 turns
Boosts: Levin

Bridget:
Finn 32 turns
Everyone else 113 turns
Jamuka and Azel 117 turns
Midayle 133 turns
Holin 150 turns
Deu 225 turns
Boosts: Midayle

Tiltyu:
Finn 32 turns
Claude 107 turns
Everyone else 127 turns
Boosts: Azel

Claude is one big pimp.
If you want to pair Bridget/Tiltyu fast, Finn is the one to go with. I do not know why.

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2nd generation

Lakche:
Johan/Johalvier 150
Faval and Sety 167 turns
Everyone else 250 turns
Shanan 280 turns
Boosts: Shanan
Cannot be paired with Skasaha.

Rana:
Corpule 93 turns
Faval and Sety 167 turns
Celice 200 turns
Everyone else 250 turns
Boosts: Celice, Faval
Cannot be paired with Lester.

Yuria:
Cannot be paired with anyone. There are no boosts with anyone.
Starts out with very high points with Celice, but has negative growth with him.
In other words... if you put her with Celice their affection value will only get worse.

Fee:
Faval and Sety 167 turns
Arthur 200 turns
Everyone else 250 turns
Boosts: Arthur
Cannot be paired with Sety.

Nanna:
Sety and Faval 167 turns
Leaf 200 turns
Everyone else 250 turns
Boosts: Leaf
Cannot be paired with Delmudd.

Patty:
Sety and Corpul 167 turns
Shanan 200 turns
Everyone else 250 turns
Boosts: Shanan
Cannot be paired with Faval.

Lynn:
Ares 200 turns
Everyone else 250 turns
No boosts.
Cannot be paired with Corpul.

Tinny:
Everyone 167 turns.
Boosts: Celice
Cannot be paired with Arthur.

Hannival, Finn, and Althenna cannot be paired with anyone.


Btw, I'm new to this board.. onegaishimasu?

[FESS Claudius]

..oro?

I'm sure Yuria could be paired with someone......It just took ages.

I remember Finn being able to be with someone in the 2nd gen, too.

200 seems to be the number for the real pairs in the 2nd gen....or at least the ones I think are the real pairs.

I bet the reason Finn is fast to fall in love with Bridget and Tiltyu is because they join the chapter he leaves. And they join late in that chapter too. Same kinda thing with Claude(and prolly Bridget and Tiltyu with other guys), he comes later than most(well, all), so he has to fall in love faster to have a chance.


.....Gasp! Longish post! From me! : O

BE SUPRISED, BE VERY SUPRISED

.....Yeah. *run awaaaaaaaaay*

Edit: ....Hmm....more of a medium sized post, actually. x.x

[TheEnd]

FESS said:

..oro?

I'm sure Yuria could be paired with someone......It just took ages.

I remember Finn being able to be with someone in the 2nd gen, too.

200 seems to be the number for the real pairs in the 2nd gen....or at least the ones I think are the real pairs.

I bet the reason Finn is fast to fall in love with Bridget and Tiltyu is because they join the chapter he leaves. And they join late in that chapter too. Same kinda thing with Claude(and prolly Bridget and Tiltyu with other guys), he comes later than most(well, all), so he has to fall in love faster to have a chance.


.....Gasp! Longish post! From me! : O

BE SUPRISED, BE VERY SUPRISED

.....Yeah. *run awaaaaaaaaay*

Edit: ....Hmm....more of a medium sized post, actually. x.x

Yup, that's it.

But remember, Fin can only get someone in 2nd gen if he didn't in 1st.

[NoBaka]

FESS said:

..oro?

I'm sure Yuria could be paired with someone......It just took ages.

I remember Finn being able to be with someone in the 2nd gen, too.

200 seems to be the number for the real pairs in the 2nd gen....or at least the ones I think are the real pairs.

I bet the reason Finn is fast to fall in love with Bridget and Tiltyu is because they join the chapter he leaves. And they join late in that chapter too. Same kinda thing with Claude(and prolly Bridget and Tiltyu with other guys), he comes later than most(well, all), so he has to fall in love faster to have a chance.


.....Gasp! Longish post! From me! : O

BE SUPRISED, BE VERY SUPRISED

.....Yeah. *run awaaaaaaaaay*

Edit: ....Hmm....more of a medium sized post, actually. x.x

Yuria can definitely fall in love. She just has low growth rates. I usually pair her with Skasaha.

And I stand by my idea for Bridget/Tiltyu x Finn.

Finn: Hi.

Bridget/Tiltyu: Hi.

Finn: . . . .

Bridget/Tiltyu: . . . .

Finn: . . . .

Bridget/Tiltyu: . . . . I MUST HAVE YOUR BABIES *NOW*

[sindylocuas3]

well first of all welcome alice and second this chart would help a lot to newbies por not to new than are playing this game so thank but is 1 problem yuria can get a boy hehhehe i paired up with lester and bpoth where fightingh dragons like maniac so...

[TerranigmaFreak (admin)]

Yeah welcome to the boards and great job. I'm usually too lazy to check how many turns it takes to fall in love. All I remember is that it only works in the first 50 turns. Like Nilus said, Yuria can fall in love, it's a pain but it's possible.

[superbus]

Wow. Someone brings knowledge in their first post. Good job, Aice!

[celestialwrath]

Wait, didn't people say that having the pairs kill enemies when next to each other boosts the rating as well?

[Aice]

Thanks all =] I've been reading this forum for a while but just never posted.

Guest-celestialwrath said:

Wait, didn't people say that having the pairs kill enemies when next to each other boosts the rating as well?

Yeah, they can get critical hits aka "love attack".
Oh, and if you isolate a pair (have no one else next to them) their affection value will increase a lot more. If you can read Chinese/katakana, this is the site.. www.fireemblem.net/fe/fe4/fe4--char/fe4-love1.htm
I guess Yuria can be paired... but according to the numbers she can't (0 growth for everyone). Does she have any conversation with Skahasa once paired with him?

[celestialwrath]

I wasn't quite talking about the "love attack" critical hit thing. I was referring to the period before a couple gets together. I don't know. People have been talking about Yuria/whoever pairs and other such things for forever, and this would explain it, that there are factors other than just turns together. It's just what I've heard.

Well, without it, the Fin/Bridget and Fin/Tiltyu pairs seem pretty much impossible, although I'm willing to try it if anyone has a save state at the start of the chapter.

Also, what exactly do you mean by "isolated"? Does this mean no characters within one space of the pair, or a wider range? I don't remember keeping Fin and Lachesis together that long and in a good distance from others. I blazed through the first part of the game that time, and I got them paired up by the time Fin left. I doubt that was 225 turns.

Sorry for my ignorance; I'm stuck to reading English only.

[DarkTwilkitri]

According to everything I've heard/read over the years, you get bonuses in the love counter from:

Attacking next to each other
Those talks
Standing next to each other when a castle is conquered

Um... there's probably more, but that's all I can remember.

[Starwolf]

I was about to say people get a boost of +5 for being next to oneanother. You were taking that into account. Also I think distance relatioins only beome possible after a certain number.

[TheEnd]

Starwolf said:

I was about to say people get a boost of +5 for being next to oneanother. You were taking that into account. Also I think distance relatioins only beome possible after a certain number.

Yup, and they can be scary.

"Hum, Sylvia likes Alec. I'll have to make her love Claude, as usual. And Brigid and Tiltyu must get pairs, too, but they love no one. 50 turns in chapter 4. I can do it."

I then sent Levin and Fury to destroy all foes and save all towns, leaves couples of lovers-to-be isolated the outside world. 50 turns later, Sylvia loved Alec. No matter the distance, they became lovers by turn 51. I found only one solution: to kill Alec. It worked. Then, when Claude got Sylvia, I made him ressurrect his former rival.

[AceNoctali]

DarkTwilkitri said:

According to everything I've heard/read over the years, you get bonuses in the love counter from:

Attacking next to each other
Those talks
Standing next to each other when a castle is conquered

Um... there's probably more, but that's all I can remember.

There's also by healing with staves, Dancing next to the potential lover, and making a Thief give his money to his/her potential lover.

I remember how Claude was paired EXTREMELY fast with Fury, by constantly using the Reserve Staff while she was next to him (and although Fury WASN'T the one who was healed....)
Frankly, I'm wonderin', by seeing the effectiveness of healing for making couples, not only by the exemple of Claude, but other staves users (for exemple, Lachesis/Azel, which are NOT Predestined), if healing isn't more efficient than fighting next to the potentiel lover...

[TerranigmaFreak (admin)]

I don't think you guys need to be so specific. As long as they do stuff together, their love will grow. I never bother with trying to figure out the fastest way to do it. Just as long as they fight next to each other.