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Post by Mushroom Shaman on Mar 27, 2004 1:50:11 GMT -5
stat growths aside
compared to swordmasters, Berserkers seem to blow them away seriously though, they have the second highest cap skill in the game (29), the highest strength (30), and a high speed cap for a high con axe user (28) with max stats and a body ring, Dart can pretty much whomp anything he's sure never to get double hit and he has a potential 99 critical to top it off
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Post by Shoen on Mar 27, 2004 1:52:06 GMT -5
You mean get a double hit, not never get one right?
That is because Dart has the highest possible Spd + Con. It averages out around 41, whereas most everyone else is in the low 30's or high 20's.
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Post by superbus on Mar 27, 2004 1:54:08 GMT -5
Compared to Gonzales from FE6, Dart's just a squirrel trying to get a nut.
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Post by Shoen on Mar 27, 2004 1:55:05 GMT -5
Well, let's not confuse people late at night with other games, superbus.
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Post by superbus on Mar 27, 2004 1:56:06 GMT -5
I'M the one that's drunk, you should be worried about confusing ME!
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Post by Shoen on Mar 27, 2004 1:57:44 GMT -5
Exactly... or... gah! *Throws self into well*
Also, every Berserker Character in this game is better than the Warrior Characters.
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Post by Mushroom Shaman on Mar 27, 2004 2:00:35 GMT -5
too bad Dart's growths are so lopsided but i guess it's fair for him to be crap in everything besides strength, HP, and speed he'd probably be too good with stats more balanced
ah well it's kinda fun trying to max his stats
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Post by Lastchance on Mar 27, 2004 4:21:08 GMT -5
Dart is friggin insane. 15% extra crit with 30 power, 28 speed, 13 con. Just disgusting. Not to mention the 60 extra HP which will allow him to take a few hits and keep on going..
Don't underestimate Guy, especially with Wo Dao. He can keep on criticaling over and over again.
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Post by Jet Enduro on Mar 27, 2004 4:23:48 GMT -5
Dart has such low Skill that unless you give him ALL of your Skill ups, he'll have sub 20 Skill. I think his skill growth is like 15% worst in Rekka no Ken I might add.
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Post by superryan on Mar 27, 2004 8:23:04 GMT -5
Exactly... or... gah! *Throws self into well* Also, every Berserker Character in this game is better than the Warrior Characters. Warriors arn't that bad Bartre and Dorcas have decent skill at least, and can use bows. Dorcas has horribly low speed (he gets double attacked by even OSWIN in link arena).
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Post by Jet Enduro on Mar 27, 2004 8:37:02 GMT -5
Well Dart in himself is not over powered. He only has 3 redeeming factors, HP, Speed, and Strength. His luck is bad, so is his Def, and his resistence, and Skill are pitiful.
Now the Berserker class in itself has pretty over powering Caps. Just take a look at HARD mode Fargus.
But Dart will never ever MAX anything except said 3 things. His Skill means he wont match the Critical rate of a Swordmaster, and he also wont have verygood hit rate against faster characters.
And yes Superbus Geese is much better then Dart IMHO. I like the more balanced approach at the Berserker class.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2004 8:59:30 GMT -5
Warriors arn't that bad Bartre and Dorcas have decent skill at least, and can use bows. Dorcas has horribly low speed (he gets double attacked by even OSWIN in link arena). .....Oswin isn't that slow you know
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Post by SwordsAreShiney on Mar 27, 2004 11:08:41 GMT -5
in my experience, dorcas and bartre have always been great. they usually max hp, skill and str, and usually have not horrible spd, def, res, and luck.
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Post by InfiniteMasterEx on Mar 27, 2004 17:03:07 GMT -5
I really prefer Hawkeye and Geese over Dart and Gonzalas because they are more well rounded so he can acually hit. Dart and Gonzalas can't hit anything at all, can't dodge, and has such low defense and resistance.
And beserkers and warriors are pretty much the same. Warriors may be slower but can use bows and have a lot higher skill (crucial for axe users.)
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Post by Lastchance on Mar 27, 2004 17:15:15 GMT -5
The thing is, Dart has the speed that he can dodge most of the stuff they throw at him, Hawkeye really doesn't. And Dart really doesn't care about his skill cuz he's going to get 2 attacks, and most of the time it only takes one of those two hits to connect for Dart to get his kill.
Speed, IMHO, is the most important stat in the game, and Power is right behind that. Dart has usually will have 58 power and speed combined at 20/20, way better than anything anyone else has in this game, and that's why I'd take Dart, any day of the week, twice on sundays.
Dorcas, BTW, does have insanely crappy speed. Average of 13 at 20/20. Bartre has an average of 20, which will allow him to dodge some things, and he won't get two hit by every single enemy out there...
Berserkers get an extra 15% critical... Considering that speed is even more important for a bow-user than a normal character, the bow isn't amazing for warriors as it is for Lyn, for example.
Berserkers as a class > Warriors.
Dart > Hawkeye.
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