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Post by PooOnYou on Aug 17, 2003 3:23:47 GMT -5
I don't know why people think he sucks. He the only male mage that can use rod before class change(Plus he has a high rod skill rate). Has high build for a mage. Yes, dark magic is slow. But it powerful. Although you aren't suppose to use dark magic all the time. Plus he can use any of the elemental spell(like all the other mages of course.)
Only thing wrong with him is his hp. And although his spd is lower than the rest of the mages, it usually max out after class change. With or without scrolls.
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Post by TerranigmaFreak (admin) on Aug 17, 2003 11:02:01 GMT -5
*hugs PooOnYou* I couldn't have said it better myself. But I have to ask you this, where did you hear people say Salem sucks?
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Post by Starwolf on Aug 17, 2003 15:45:51 GMT -5
If anything Salem is automatically good. He has no compitition. Hes the only person who can use dark magic. Speed doesn't really matter unless you are using him with some other magic (but theres little point he can't gain magic levels to be effective). He has a hard enough time maxing out Dark (in fact I know of nobody who has managed to get an A in Dark Magic) witout adding Wind, Fire and Thunder to the bunch.
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Post by Seti on Aug 17, 2003 17:20:10 GMT -5
Hmm...I think its rather if you compare him with other mages and units in general Salem is quite an only average character......
But since he's the only Dark Mage in FE5 he's automactically redempted...
Its hard for most characters to suck real bad in FE5 because of manuals and scrolls. The best thing probably about Salem is he's already got C level staff ability and Dark magic ability when you get him making it easy to max out his skill levels in no time.
Salem can be sorted by a HP ring and simple scrolls and manuals.....
Wrath + Pinch Strike Wrath + Moonlight Hit Fala Scroll + Ullir
Or you can give him a bunch of sleep staffs and put everyone to sleep considering he does have decent magic.
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Post by Chainy on Aug 17, 2003 17:59:00 GMT -5
Salem is good, the only problem is some of his starting stats are pretty bad, but give him scrolls. Sun/Moonlight Hit, Pinch Strike, and Wrath sound good on him, but not sure as I haven't got past Chapter 12 Gaiden...
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Post by Seti on Aug 17, 2003 18:45:40 GMT -5
Hmm..12G is that the fog of war level where you recruit Tina and Pirin and theres tons of thieves and dancers? Or is it the Olwen rescue level? I can't remember
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Post by The dark prince on Aug 17, 2003 20:32:06 GMT -5
If anything Salem is automatically good. He has no compitition. Hes the only person who can use dark magic. Speed doesn't really matter unless you are using him with some other magic (but theres little point he can't gain magic levels to be effective). He has a hard enough time maxing out Dark (in fact I know of nobody who has managed to get an A in Dark Magic) witout adding Wind, Fire and Thunder to the bunch. you know me i never really used the onther magics with him. i forgeted he can use them
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Post by TerranigmaFreak (admin) on Aug 18, 2003 9:32:19 GMT -5
I forgot he can use other magics too but then I really don't care since Dark Magic is good enough.
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Post by Seti on Aug 18, 2003 16:27:43 GMT -5
I usually like giving him some Thunder or Wind Magic every so often but its usually just for defensive purposes since its lighter.
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Post by Diedrupo on Aug 30, 2003 16:22:04 GMT -5
He sucks because he's slow. One of the advantages of mages/sisters is that they're fast. Salem is slow, and gets hit a lot. It doesn't matter if dark magic is good if Salem's crappy speed/skill makes him miss a lot.
If you actually try using him in a normal game, rather than powerleveling him, you'd understand why people think he sucks.
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Post by Roberth on Aug 31, 2003 1:21:52 GMT -5
Salem is actually usable even before leveling. And I agree about his high wand skill. It's just that some of the other mages are better than him. Although, he equal to Linoan IMO.
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Post by Seti on Aug 31, 2003 4:11:34 GMT -5
I wouldn't DARE compare Salem to Linoan for all sorts of reasons...
Linoan is a powerleveler, uses Light Magic, can use Rizziah straight off the bat and also is cute (well thats a bonus)
Quite frankly Linoan is in a completely different league she doesn't even need scrolls or manuals to become strong while Salem does need the extra help.
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Post by TerranigmaFreak (admin) on Aug 31, 2003 11:17:19 GMT -5
I guess I'm the only one who uses Salem as my capture mage. And yes my Salem always gets the Sety scroll for the speed boost.
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Post by NoBaka on Sept 1, 2003 18:52:01 GMT -5
I wouldn't DARE compare Salem to Linoan for all sorts of reasons... Linoan is a powerleveler, uses Light Magic, can use Rizziah straight off the bat and also is cute (well thats a bonus) Quite frankly Linoan is in a completely different league she doesn't even need scrolls or manuals to become strong while Salem does need the extra help. ::nods:: Linoan is a freakin monster. Without scrolls, she maxed out everything except BLD and strength before I even got her to the church. I tried using Salem once. He really does have some serious power, but so do the Light magic users. Coupled with the fact that it's a bitch to get new Dark magic and he's abysmally slow, Salem usually winds up rotting down there with Marty.
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Post by Roberth on Sept 2, 2003 3:25:01 GMT -5
I mean equal as in "Start out weak but strong after class change", unlike the other mages. I don't even see why anybody would use Linoan, when Sara is better anyway.
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