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Post by Gunlord100 on Sept 1, 2003 14:17:19 GMT -5
"I was kidding about the whole Pong being gay thing, dude." Yeah, I thought so ^___^;;;;; Please forgive my most horrendous ignorance and stupidity, NoBaka ^___^;;;; And on the censorship thing, I think it would be wonderful if people actually did that. After all, ratings are there for a reason, and anyone who just ignores them and gets bitchy about them is an idiot, right? It's too bad a whole lotta people in this world are idiots I think that no matter how clearly the rating is stated, no matter how much freedom parents have to control what their kids watch, there'll always be one stupid moron who can't understand that and gets throws a hissy fit. It sux, I know...but that's the unfortunate truth, and I think that's what Nintendo's worried about.
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Post by NoBaka on Sept 2, 2003 13:33:33 GMT -5
That's what you get when you live in a country that thrives on other people's pain. I'm talking about lawyers. And lawsuits. Did you know that a man broke into someone's house, tripped over their couch, and then sued for injuries? He won too. It's just sick.
I just realized this thread has gone way off topic.
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Post by Gunlord100 on Sept 2, 2003 14:28:54 GMT -5
Yeah...our legal system is pretty ****ed up for a criminal to be able to successfully sue his own victim And this thread has gone way off topic, that it has...to bring it back on topic, one thing I'd like to see in an FE game is a greater variety of weapons! I think stuff like maces and claws and stuff would be a good addition...
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Post by Diedrupo on Sept 2, 2003 15:17:35 GMT -5
Well if anything is censored in FE7, i'd just chalk it up to cultural differences and nothing more. I personally do not know if it is censored or not.
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Post by TerranigmaFreak (admin) on Sept 3, 2003 11:13:18 GMT -5
See, Nintendo censorship baffles me. As I pointed out, they removed blood from the N64 version of Tony Hawk yet they released games like Conker's Big Furry Di... err I mean Bad Fur Day or BMX XXX. Some games back in the SNES days contains the word damn while other times they remove it. MegaMan X even said damn in MMX3. They also used the word in Ninja Gaiden. While I know the games I pointed out are 3rd party but it's still strange. Afterall Mortal Kombat was 3rd party but Nintendo censored it.
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Post by NoBaka on Sept 3, 2003 11:50:33 GMT -5
Conker's Bad Fur Day was meant to be utterly obscene. And it was. Censors are constantly changing the bar of what language is "appropriate" for certain age groups.
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Post by Megaman on Sept 3, 2003 14:42:50 GMT -5
Let me explain it. Nintendo will let a 3rd party company put just about anything in a game on there system. the BMX XXX for the GC was actually less censored then the one for the X-box. In the X-box you had to earn it. In the GC version you could see what you wanted right from the get go. You see Nintendo may only make kid or relatively kid friendly games but they don't have a problem with other people making not so kid games (Keep in mind Japanese kids are supposed to be more mature then American kids).
There were porn games or games with porn in them for the snes. I can't think of any that got released in the US but there were plenty of them. Shin Megami Tensei for the snes had lots of nudity. I haven't beaten it but there are a number of demons that you can see there breasts clearly. It may not look like it at first but if you look clearly yes that is a breast Werecat has. One of the bosses you could clearly see her butt. Becuase of the position she is in throught the entire battle you can see it. There was also lots of suggestive material in that game. There are some games where as far as I can tell all you do on them is go through pictures. There are some that are just pictures of naked people. I could name one but I don't want to. It does matter alot that these games were only released in Japan but still...
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Post by kanzakii on Sept 3, 2003 14:59:36 GMT -5
Nudity is not neccesarily porn...
But censoring the swear words are not essential...a lot of kids (5-8 years old) started to use the F-word then.
...like someone has stated, just translate the text and keep the originality, and put a higher rating if needed.
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Post by Megaman on Sept 3, 2003 19:45:36 GMT -5
Your right. I didn't think about it. Shin Megami Tensei may have nudity but as far as I have gotten there really hasn't been any porn, Atleast not unless I skipped it somehow.
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Post by Lord Ryu Li Ri Tzu on Sept 3, 2003 20:17:39 GMT -5
Erum... I think this forum has a bit of a problem with getting off topic. Well, getting back ON topic of next FE game ideas... Heh... they should put ME in it!! I mean, they could do a whole FE game just based around me! It could even have a tragic ending! The plot would revolve around my struggle trying to maim the demon infused within me... and in the end, the demon is released, I lose all control, and I kill everyone in my party! Then when the demon finds nothing left to kill, he diminishes and I return to myself! I grieve over the loss of my companions and go back to my solitary life. The End. Okay, not really... but I bet Septimus would like that Anyway, in the next FE game... umm, change the graphics so I can collect more sprites! Oh, and come up with new cool classes! Maybe the next Lord should use a bow, a spear, or magic. Heh, maybe the next Lord should be a pacifist and use only healing rods Okay, maybe my ideas are stupid, but what can I say... I'm braindead right now! I have a right to be stupid!! Seriously though, they need to come up with new ideas rather than bringing back old ones... I've just skimmed through a couple posts, and it seems as though people miss the capture and love system. Well, I'm for the love system myself, but they need a NEW system... I dunno what it would be, though...
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Post by Megaman on Sept 3, 2003 20:57:22 GMT -5
Ive got an idea. Alignment. In Shin Megami Tensei your main charecter had an alignment. It goes Chaos Neutral and law. There were three different endings depending on your alignment. They could make it to where if you wanted a lawful alignment you had to capture just about all the units and always put them in your tent (caravan whatever they give us in the next game). If you want to be chaotic you have to kill most of them. You can capture them and just drop them anywhere for the same effect. For neutral you have to do both. There could be a branching path. A person with a chaotic alignment wouldn't find something like kidnapping people who are important to the enemy a bad thing while a lawful person would. There could also be weapons that are restricted depending on your alignment. A special weapon you get close to the end of the game. The good guys could have some sort of light spear that increases speed alot. The neutral a sword that gives a boost to speed and strength. A dark axe that increases strength alot.
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Post by Leon Magnus on Sept 4, 2003 0:29:57 GMT -5
That Alighnment thing seems an awful lot like Ogre Battle, anyway, I havn't got anything to add here.
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Post by Summer on Sept 4, 2003 5:31:17 GMT -5
Well, sorry to be replying to something off-topic, but if we're going to cut out Leivan x Lucea, we might as well cut out Lin and Florina, because they DO go off together in the ending, too. Even if the ending's not all that suggestive.
Hell, FRODO AND SAM in The Two Towers was a total red alert for my gaydar system, AND it still is popular in the US. "It's your Sam!" as a line is worse to my head than what Leivan and Lucea ever said to each other, actually.
And as for the desert bandits....I don't think they're going to be censored. They're just like....you know, weird people. Unless you look at the subtext of their whole character design.
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Post by kyuusei on Sept 4, 2003 10:09:38 GMT -5
Summer... if you think your gaydar was set off in Two Towers, wait until Return of the King. *cackles* There's this great shot from RotK where Sam is holding Frodo in Shelob's cave... I can see all the bad yaoi fics coming out of THAT one. Ack.
And, I agree about the desert bandits. Or, at least, if they are anything like Maggie and Rose. If anyone young is playing this game, gay might not be the first word that would come to their minds. Probably something more along the lines of just plain weird.
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Post by NoBaka on Sept 4, 2003 10:38:28 GMT -5
Summer... if you think your gaydar was set off in Two Towers, wait until Return of the King. *cackles* There's this great shot from RotK where Sam is holding Frodo in Shelob's cave... I can see all the bad yaoi fics coming out of THAT one. Ack. Gah! The burning!!
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