Goemon2057
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Post by Goemon2057 on Apr 9, 2004 23:58:36 GMT -5
Ya that is true,but i doubt she needed the dragon shield really early on,bring a healer with her and she'll probably dodge WAY more than enough to get to perfect dodgin,i gave her one but she was lvl 20/20 in chp.23,so since she never really fought in 24(she always got stuck between karel and rutuger)it really wasnt needed.damn...not using her on mamkumates....that is the greatest mercy i couldve given them lol.....did i say mamkumates right?
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Post by kyuusei on Apr 10, 2004 0:01:28 GMT -5
Nah, she doesn't dodge as much when she starts out. She'll need any defense she can get initially, but Like Lyn, she'll eventually dodge just about any crap thrown her way, save dragon breath.
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Goemon2057
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Post by Goemon2057 on Apr 10, 2004 9:57:46 GMT -5
I only have dodgin probs in level after chapter 9 but usually shes lvl 15-20 so i'll either send her on lesser stuff or let som1 else get exp.,but after that hero crest i usually dun hav a single problem ^_^.
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Aliaz212
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Raven. One of the coolest characters with Rath, Lloyd and Jaffar. Nino's too cute to be there ^_^
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Post by Aliaz212 on Apr 10, 2004 15:51:15 GMT -5
I'll put up pics when I can get damn Photobucket to work
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Aliaz212
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Raven. One of the coolest characters with Rath, Lloyd and Jaffar. Nino's too cute to be there ^_^
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Post by Aliaz212 on Apr 10, 2004 20:24:59 GMT -5
Here we go... There's Rutger. That's Fir. She's doing okay, but I'd prefer better. And for no reason, here's Lugh
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Yes
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Post by Yes on Apr 10, 2004 20:27:32 GMT -5
Whoa, that is an incredible Lugh. Did you cheat or something.
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Goemon2057
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Post by Goemon2057 on Apr 10, 2004 20:27:37 GMT -5
What are you talking about?with luck and stats like like she'll probably be slightly better than rutuger(freaky stats though,fir looks like she'll max everything,u sure you didnt use a hack or somthing?) (edit after Yes's post) ya true three characters with godly stats in a row,you hav devils luck or lots of hacks (or somthing...that is FREAKY)
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Yes
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Post by Yes on Apr 10, 2004 20:31:26 GMT -5
I mean my lugh was slightly better than that, but he was 20/20
BTW, does luck even effect evade. I thought luck determined crit % and helps to make sure enemies don't crit you.
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Goemon2057
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Post by Goemon2057 on Apr 10, 2004 20:33:58 GMT -5
whoa seriously?he was that good?i've done lilna twice this time i'll do lugh i gotta c this.But still i am so damn shocked about fir/rutuger....i've done them twice and with stat boost items they arnt NEARLY as good....and i can easily tell your fir will own and has a good chance of ownin rutuger. edit:wait did u use the secret shop thats sells la ton of stat boosts mayb?i had to ask its just scary i have never in my life seen ANY char that could get that close to maxing every stat.(fe6 and fe7) Second edit >_<(gotta stop skimming i suck at it >_<:From what i know yes luck does affect evade,for one in a link arena fight,rutuger v fir,it would b the only explanation for rutuger havin 50 hit and fir havin like 76(both had max speed and skill) Last,once again,WHAT IS RNG!? ....
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Post by XSolaris on Apr 10, 2004 21:22:29 GMT -5
Here we go... That's Fir. She's doing okay, but I'd prefer better. That's a great Fir already..., since she's not even promoted yet. She'll still get the promotion bonuses, That's HP +4 Str +3 Skl +2 Spd +2 Def +3 Res +2 Unless you get extremely unlucky, she'll easily max Strength (only 4 points away after promotion), Skill, Speed, Luck in the end, and pretty good Defense and Resistance too. And you got really lucky with Rutgar, he usually has very low Luck, and his Defense is usually in the mid 10s, and low Resistance. His Defense and Resistance on average is basically as good as how your Fir is now, if he was still 20/0. Seriously, if your unsatisfied with that Fir, you'll probably always be disappointed with your Firs and Rutgars in all your future playthroughs (both far surpass their averages for their levels), unless you use the RNG trick. 15 Strength, maxed Skill, Speed, 17 Luck, and roughly 10 Defense and Resistance before promotion for a Myrmidon is very very good. BTW, does luck even effect evade. I thought luck determined crit % and helps to make sure enemies don't crit you. Evasion = Attack Speed*2 + Luck + Support Bonuses + Terrain Effects + Weapon Triangle Corrections Hit Rate = Skill*2 + Luck/2 + Weapon Hit Rate + Support Bonuses Your actual Hit Rate will be your Hit Rate - Target's Evasion. Critical Rate = Skill/2 + Weapon Critical Rate + Class Bonuses + Support Bonuses Critical Avoid = Luck + Support Bonuses Actual Critical Rate = Your Critical Rate - Target's Critical Avoid However much your Luck is, the enemy's critical rate will be lowered that much against you. Your own Luck does not effect your own critical rate. Last,once again,WHAT IS RNG!? .... The Random Number Generator. Whenever you attack, or a character is leveling up, random numbers are generated to determine if you'll hit, if your stats will go up or not, and so on.
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Goemon2057
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Post by Goemon2057 on Apr 10, 2004 21:28:04 GMT -5
wow perfect explantaion solaris.....damnit you said everything that could possibly be said.And its nice to finally see how hit rate and that stuff works,thanks for posting with so much deatil o_o.and thanks again for explaining what rng is ^_^
edit(still skimming >_<):But whats this rng trick exactly?never heard of it on any thread i've read o_o
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Post by XSolaris on Apr 10, 2004 21:39:07 GMT -5
edit(still skimming >_<):But whats this rng trick exactly?never heard of it on any thread i've read The RNG trick is mentioned on this site: www.geocities.com/gamersara/rng.htmlshould give you the general idea. anyway, as for the hit rate and evasion and critical rate, support bonuses also have effect on them, I'd edit my original post.
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Goemon2057
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Post by Goemon2057 on Apr 10, 2004 21:46:16 GMT -5
Ya i know support helps,i use noah with her and since i use noah almost as much,its like sending zeiphel with a killer sword(if it were possible)on a soldier.I skimmed though that rng thing and i'm not the kind of person who wants to go through all that,i'm gonn use good old luck ^_^.(Real luck not stat luck >_> <_<) (damn smileys....always finding their way to make me need to modify again)
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Aliaz212
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Raven. One of the coolest characters with Rath, Lloyd and Jaffar. Nino's too cute to be there ^_^
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Post by Aliaz212 on Apr 11, 2004 1:48:11 GMT -5
I wasn't really disappointed, just unsure. First playthrough with FE6 so i'm not sure about everyone's standards. Cuz then again, you should compare it with this stuff I have. Heres my Roy. Strangely overpowered, I'd think. Oh, and as you can see, it'd be impossible to get the stat items..I'm only in chapter nine. Just abusing the arena And no, I'm not getting the greatest RNG even if that's what you think. Just look at this. My Sue sucks. Thank god I can try for Shin
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Post by VincentASM on Apr 11, 2004 8:49:13 GMT -5
^DAMN your Sue really really sucks! That is awful! (no really it is!) Your Roy is nice tho, I had similar stats to them... made me wonder if Roy really had sucky leader syndrome. he he.
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